Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 04:10:48PM -0400, Adam Katz wrote: (note, I'm guessing at the appropriate mailing list for cross-post) Dennis Davis wrote: http://code.google.com/p/anti-phishing-email-reply/ is also useful as it attempts to detail the compromised accounts. Just

Re: Code Rot?

2009-04-28 Thread Justin Mason
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 02:33, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:04:36 +0100 Justin Mason j...@jmason.org wrote: that's pretty much it.  low FPs and a useful number of hits (ie. over 1% iirc). Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily mean that the rule is useful.

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Mike Cardwell
Dave Funk wrote: Nah - I really don't like it that way; it doesn't really bring you any benefit and is more likely to cause collisions if you do it that way. Don't see how it can cause less DNS traffic either. At least using MD5 hashes your DNS query will only be 32 characters + blacklist zone

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Mike Cardwell
Henrik K wrote: (note, I'm guessing at the appropriate mailing list for cross-post) Dennis Davis wrote: http://code.google.com/p/anti-phishing-email-reply/ is also useful as it attempts to detail the compromised accounts. Just block/quarantine email for those accounts. Interesting ... this

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:31:42AM +0100, Mike Cardwell wrote: Henrik K wrote: This might sound a big picky, but using backticks to call the date command in a perl script is horrible. Try using the standard gmtime function. Eg: $date = gmtime().' (UTC)'; Rather than: $date = `date

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Mike Cardwell
Henrik K wrote: This might sound a big picky, but using backticks to call the date command in a perl script is horrible. Try using the standard gmtime function. Eg: $date = gmtime().' (UTC)'; Rather than: $date = `date -u`; chomp($date); /me too busy to man perlfunc Let this thread

X-Spam-Report: not wrapped sometimes

2009-04-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Hello, I often receive see mail where X-Spam-Report header is longer than 80 characters. This causes mutt to re-wrap the header, which causes the header be hardly readable. Since SA already wraps other headers, can we consider that as a bug or does that have an reason/option to tune? Examples

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Matt
Henrik K wrote: If someone wants to try it on their mail feed: http://sa.hege.li/pra.cf Don't mind the size, as optimized they only take millisecond or two to run. Of course when if it starts getting 10x the size, DNS will start looking attractive.. I have been publishing a sa-update

Re: Code Rot?

2009-04-28 Thread Steve Freegard
Justin Mason wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 17:38, John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Justin Mason wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 17:03, Yet Another Ninja sa-l...@alexb.ch wrote: SARE had a nice system where you could submit a rule via email and got the masscheck

Re: Code Rot?

2009-04-28 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 4/28/2009 12:52 PM, Matt wrote: Steve Freegard wrote: Is it possible to get SVN access just to the sandboxes though? I'd be happy to submit rules for testing. My membership of the -dev list was after the PreflightByMail announcement and I would have definitely used it had I been aware of

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:51:33AM +0100, Matt wrote: Henrik K wrote: If someone wants to try it on their mail feed: http://sa.hege.li/pra.cf Don't mind the size, as optimized they only take millisecond or two to run. Of course when if it starts getting 10x the size, DNS will start

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Mike Cardwell
Henrik K wrote: This might sound a big picky, but using backticks to call the date command in a perl script is horrible. Try using the standard gmtime function. Eg: $date = gmtime().' (UTC)'; Rather than: $date = `date -u`; chomp($date); /me too busy to man perlfunc Let this thread be

Re: Code Rot?

2009-04-28 Thread Matt
Steve Freegard wrote: Is it possible to get SVN access just to the sandboxes though? I'd be happy to submit rules for testing. My membership of the -dev list was after the PreflightByMail announcement and I would have definitely used it had I been aware of it. Ditto on both counts.

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 09:46:44AM +0100, Mike Cardwell wrote: Henrik K wrote: (note, I'm guessing at the appropriate mailing list for cross-post) Dennis Davis wrote: http://code.google.com/p/anti-phishing-email-reply/ is also useful as it attempts to detail the compromised accounts. Just

Re: Pyzor ?

2009-04-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 22.04.09 13:39, Benny Pedersen wrote: still running here as server and client On 24.04.09 15:19, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: client only here. searching for PYZOR string in SA logs didn't findanything for last two days (gotta re-check). seems I will turn pyzor off

Re: X-Spam-Report: not wrapped sometimes

2009-04-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 12:21 +0200, Matus UHLAR wrote: I often receive see mail where X-Spam-Report header is longer than 80 characters. This causes mutt to re-wrap the header, which causes the header be hardly readable. Since SA already wraps other headers, can we consider that as a bug or

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Steve Freegard
John Hardin wrote: I suppose I should ask, what do you mean by a spammer reversing the list? I guess I meant that it makes it harder for the spammer if he/she gets a copy of the list to casually look for addresses to avoid without doing the extra work of encoding the address in the same way

Debugging update channels (was: sought.rules.yerp.org site down?)

2009-04-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 08:17 -0700, Bill Landry wrote: dig sought.rules.yerp.org finds no A record. Although yerp.org has an A record, the site cannot be access via browser, at least not from here... Yeah, there was another downtime, obviously fixed since. However, just to clarify on

Stop Counting!

2009-04-28 Thread LuKreme
I was thinking that, particularly for people who trash messages over a certain threshold and are worried about the SA overhead, a stop- counting threshold might be a good idea. So, for example, for my personal mail I could set stop_counting at 7.0, once a message hits 7.0 (with bayes) SA

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Ben Winslow
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:09:02 +0100 Steve Freegard st...@stevefreegard.com wrote: Well in the case of an emailBL - the worst that can happen is that one listed md5 collides with an innocent e-mail address. By adding in the string length it reduces that possibility because both colliding

Re: Stop Counting!

2009-04-28 Thread John ffitch
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, LuKreme wrote: I was thinking that, particularly for people who trash messages over a certain threshold and are worried about the SA overhead, a stop-counting threshold might be a good idea. So, for example, for my personal mail I could set stop_counting at 7.0, once

Re: Stop Counting!

2009-04-28 Thread LuKreme
On 28-Apr-2009, at 08:27, John ffitch wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, LuKreme wrote: I was thinking that, particularly for people who trash messages over a certain threshold and are worried about the SA overhead, a stop-counting threshold might be a good idea. So, for example, for my personal

'anti' AWL

2009-04-28 Thread LuKreme
OK, working on my first cup of coffee this morning, so maybe this has potential. The way the AWL works is by keeping track of the origin of emails, both the address and the server (the top line Received header?) that send the email. So, lets say that I have a lot of email from

Re: 'anti' AWL

2009-04-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.04.09 08:43, LuKreme wrote: OK, working on my first cup of coffee this morning, so maybe this has potential. The way the AWL works is by keeping track of the origin of emails, both the address and the server (the top line Received header?) that send the email. So, lets say that I

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Rob McEwen
Ben Winslow wrote: If you're worried about spammers gaming the hash system Most likely, they won't care. They'll happily pursue the low hanging fruit. The only exception is if/when freemail ISPs started using such a list to start investigating individual accounts for possible termination. But,

Re: 'anti' AWL

2009-04-28 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: LuKreme krem...@kreme.com Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:43:46 -0600 OK, working on my first cup of coffee this morning, so maybe this has potential. The way the AWL works is by keeping track of the origin of emails, both the address and the server (the top line

Re: Code Rot?

2009-04-28 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Matt wrote: Steve Freegard wrote: Is it possible to get SVN access just to the sandboxes though? I'd be happy to submit rules for testing. Ditto +1 -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174

Re: emailBL

2009-04-28 Thread Mike Cardwell
Rob McEwen wrote: If you're worried about spammers gaming the hash system Most likely, they won't care. They'll happily pursue the low hanging fruit. The only exception is if/when freemail ISPs started using such a list to start investigating individual accounts for possible termination. But,

Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Robert Ober
Hello Folks, I am using Spamassassin 3.2.5 with Sendmail 8.14.1 in an installation for office and offsite users. The initial setup was to have Spamassassin to rewrite the subject so that the users could setup a filter in Outlook. Problem is that some users are setup to have their email

sa-compile problem

2009-04-28 Thread Gary
Hi guys, I was just doing an update and compile and ran into this problem which is new, as I never had troulbe before. Error is token exceeds limit, as below. Any help would be appreciated. SA ~ # sa-update --gpgkey 6C6191E3 --channel sought.rules.yerp.org --channel updates.spamassassin.org SA

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 11:07 -0500, Robert Ober wrote: filter in Outlook. Problem is that some users are setup to have their email forwarded to their cellphone/blackberry and the spam is in that inbox. So I found some articles and decided to have the spam go to a file. The following is

Re: 'anti' AWL

2009-04-28 Thread LuKreme
On 28-Apr-2009, at 08:56, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: We have more servers users send mail through. Users can't choose which server will they connect. That already happens now. It can also happen when user switched ISP, mail provider, or the mail provider changes IP address, DNS names or

Re: sa-compile problem

2009-04-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 11:16 -0500, Gary wrote: I was just doing an update and compile and ran into this problem which is new, as I never had troulbe before. Error is token exceeds limit, as below. Any help would be appreciated. What's your re2c version? SA ~ # sa-update --gpgkey 6C6191E3

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Robert Ober
On 4/28/09 11:34 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: DROPPRIVS=yes procmail is being run on behalf of the recipient. Makes sense, any way to make sure the log is writeable other that to put all the users in a group? LOGFILE=/var/log/procmail.log VERBOSE=yes LOGABSTRACT=all MAILDIR is not

Re: sa-compile problem

2009-04-28 Thread Gary
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 07:44:08PM +0200 or thereabouts, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 11:16 -0500, Gary wrote: I was just doing an update and compile and ran into this problem which is new, as I never had troulbe before. Error is token exceeds limit, as below. Any help

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 13:32 -0500, Robert Ober wrote: On 4/28/09 11:34 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: DROPPRIVS=yes procmail is being run on behalf of the recipient. Makes sense, any way to make sure the log is writeable other that to put all the users in a group? Ah, just answered

Re: sa-compile problem

2009-04-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
I was just doing an update and compile and ran into this problem which is new, as I never had troulbe before. Error is token exceeds limit, as below. Any help would be appreciated. What's your re2c version? as below, you are correct, re2c.0.13.3 re2c: error: line 159, column

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Robert Ober
On 4/28/09 3:00 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 13:32 -0500, Robert Ober wrote: On 4/28/09 11:34 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: It was global and I want it to stay global. The old procmailrc is: DROPPRIVS=yes :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc No .procmailrc for the users. And

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Robert Ober wrote: All I want to do now is have all the identified spam(X-Spam-Status: Yes ?) go to a global file instead of delivered to the users. The global spam file will be readable by only myself and management. Company owned systems, so no privacy implied nor

sa-compile command-line?

2009-04-28 Thread Mark
Ok, finally got re2c compiled. :) But now sa-compile doesn't seem to output anything. I run: /usr/local/bin/sa-compile --config-file=/etc/mail/spamassassin --updatedir=/var/db/spamassassin/ But no rules are being generated anywhere (that I can find). A single command-line example in the

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Theo Van Dinter
2009/4/28 Robert Ober ro...@robob.com: It was global and I want it to stay global.  The old procmailrc is: DROPPRIVS=yes :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc That's a global config, but you're running it per-user due to the DROPPRIVS line. fyi. All I want to do now is have all the identified

Re: 'anti' AWL

2009-04-28 Thread RW
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:13:56 -0600 LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote: On 28-Apr-2009, at 08:56, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: We have more servers users send mail through. Users can't choose which server will they connect. That already happens now. I think his point is that that doesn't

How can I tell if the rules are being read?

2009-04-28 Thread Adam Harrison
I'm seeing a lot of mail with Viagra in the subject coming through, even though there is the drugs rules file(20_drugs.cf) in the upgrades directory(/var/lib/spamassassin/3.002004/updates_spamassassin_org). Is there a simple way to see what rules files are being read? Thanks, -Adam

RE: sa-compile command-line?

2009-04-28 Thread Mark
Never mind, it works. J Just calling it without any parameters has it default do The Right ThingT. - Mark From: Mark [mailto:ad...@asarian-host.net] Sent: dinsdag 28 april 2009 23:24 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: sa-compile command-line? Ok, finally got re2c

Re: How can I tell if the rules are being read?

2009-04-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 14:44 -0700, Adam Harrison wrote: I’m seeing a lot of mail with Viagra in the subject coming through, even though there is the drugs rules file(20_drugs.cf) in the upgrades directory(/var/lib/spamassassin/3.002004/updates_spamassassin_org). That doesn't necessarily

Physician List

2009-04-28 Thread Casartello, Thomas
Has anyone else noticed these messages as a problem? I have had a few complaints about messages getting through my spam filter involving Physicians List in the USA or something like that usually talking about dentists too. I made this to target it (someone on the list showed me how to do things

my emailBL is live!

2009-04-28 Thread Adam Katz
This was actually rather simple to set up. I'll publish the code (AGPL) that runs it in a bit (I need to clean it up to withstand the heavy-handed criticism on this list ...). Note, I'm using ZoneEdit's free NS mirroring, which has limited bandwidth. I'm willing to pay their minimum threshold

Re: Physician List

2009-04-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 19:43 -0400, Casartello, Thomas wrote: Has anyone else noticed these messages as a problem? I have had a few complaints about messages getting through my spam filter involving “Physicians List in the USA” or something like that usually talking I have seen quite a few

Re: 'anti' AWL

2009-04-28 Thread LuKreme
On 28-Apr-2009, at 15:38, RW wrote: It's based on the first routable IP address, Well, that's a very silly thing for it to be looking at. It should be looking at the LAST routable IP address outside of the trusted network. Looking at the first routable address is completely worthless.

Re: 'anti' AWL

2009-04-28 Thread Matt Kettler
LuKreme wrote: On 28-Apr-2009, at 15:38, RW wrote: It's based on the first routable IP address, Well, that's a very silly thing for it to be looking at. It should be looking at the LAST routable IP address outside of the trusted network. Looking at the first routable address is completely

Re: 'anti' AWL

2009-04-28 Thread Matt Kettler
Matt Kettler wrote: LuKreme wrote: On 28-Apr-2009, at 15:38, RW wrote: It's based on the first routable IP address, Well, that's a very silly thing for it to be looking at. It should be looking at the LAST routable IP address outside of the trusted network. Looking at the

Re: 'anti' AWL

2009-04-28 Thread LuKreme
On 28-Apr-2009, at 20:14, Matt Kettler wrote: The AWL uses the LAST non-private.. This is, IMO, completely broken. Yep, have to agree. This is seriously retarded. -- I love as only I can, with all my heart

FuzzyOCR only runs when specifying spamassassin -D

2009-04-28 Thread Andrew Bruce
I've been looking at some of the spam emails I've received lately with images attached and noticed that FuzzyOCR wasn't running against them. The same seems to be true when I take these messages and run them with: spamassassin -t img-email.eml However if I run them through as follows, I

Re: FuzzyOCR only runs when specifying spamassassin -D

2009-04-28 Thread René Berber
Andrew Bruce wrote: I've been looking at some of the spam emails I've received lately with images attached and noticed that FuzzyOCR wasn't running against them. [snip] However if I run them through as follows, I get FuzzyOCR showing up in the results: spamassassin -t -D img-email.eml

Re: FuzzyOCR only runs when specifying spamassassin -D

2009-04-28 Thread Matt Kettler
Andrew Bruce wrote: I've been looking at some of the spam emails I've received lately with images attached and noticed that FuzzyOCR wasn't running against them. The same seems to be true when I take these messages and run them with: spamassassin -t img-email.eml However if I run