Re: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:51:15 +1000 (EST), Res wrote: > for our customers, I dont care what other companies like that do, they can > accept mail on port 80 for all I care. newer used webmail ? -- Benny Pedersen

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:16:53 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote: >>> Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the >>> subject? I have 4 in my inbox this morning with scores no more than 5. >>> http://pastebin.com/m561b461b >> >> freemail plugin http://sa.hege.li/ >> > It looks as if the F

Re: sare channels

2009-08-21 Thread jdow
There is one rule, Ted. "If you modify a rule and break it, you get to keep the pieces." {^_-} - Original Message - From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Sent: Thursday, 2009/August/20 17:25 Dave wrote: Hi, Thanks. If the sare rules work great, is it standard practice to use them and they catch

Re: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread RW
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 08:51:15 +1000 (EST) Res wrote: > On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, RW wrote: > > > Because as I said numerous times I'm not talking about ISPs. I'm not > > sure precisely which part of "I'm not talking about ISPs" you don't > > understand. > > I know exactly what your saying, You clear

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 17:29 -0500, McDonald, Dan wrote: > On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 00:24 +0200, mouss wrote: > > at a time where we search for complex obfuscations, you think we are > > silly to use rules that only match 1 space? > > besides, unless you use a rawbody rule, the text regularization wou

Re: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Res
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, RW wrote: Because as I said numerous times I'm not talking about ISPs. I'm not sure precisely which part of "I'm not talking about ISPs" you don't understand. I know exactly what your saying, its you it seems who cant comprehend what I'm saying Are you not aware that t

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 00:24 +0200, mouss wrote: > Dan Schaefer a écrit : > > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > >> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 08:06 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote: > >> > > That is incorrect. I put double spaces in the subject, because I knew > > someone would bring that up. :-) > > > > at a t

Re: sare channels

2009-08-21 Thread mouss
Gary Smith a écrit : >> Read the top of the rulesemporium site: >> >> http://www.rulesemporium.com/ >> >> SARE rules aren't being updated. Hence, sa-updating them is pointless. > > Is it still recommended to run the SARE rules? you should use 90_2tld_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net to avoid

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread mouss
Dan Schaefer a écrit : > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: >> On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 08:06 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote: >> >>> Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject? >>> >> >> Probably not a smart idea, since you insist on re-using that very >> subject for your list po

Re: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Karl Pearson wrote: On Fri, August 21, 2009 1:41 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Gary Smith wrote: I agree. We're and ISP and I don't want us to be associated with companies like Google. I don't want Google operating in my market and I'm sure as heck that Google doesn't want me operating in the s

Re: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Karl Pearson
On Fri, August 21, 2009 1:41 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Gary Smith wrote: >>> I agree. We're and ISP and I don't want us to be associated with >>> companies like Google. I don't want Google operating in my market >>> and >>> I'm sure as heck that Google doesn't want me operating in the search

Re: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Gary Smith wrote: I agree. We're and ISP and I don't want us to be associated with companies like Google. I don't want Google operating in my market and I'm sure as heck that Google doesn't want me operating in the search engine market, either. I don't agree with this "everyone's an ISP" menta

RE: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Gary Smith
> I agree. We're and ISP and I don't want us to be associated with > companies like Google. I don't want Google operating in my market and > I'm sure as heck that Google doesn't want me operating in the search > engine market, either. > > I don't agree with this "everyone's an ISP" mentality tha

Re: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
RW wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:27:55 -0700 Gary Smith wrote: Because as I said numerous times I'm not talking about ISPs. I'm not sure precisely which part of "I'm not talking about ISPs" you don't understand. Are you not aware that there are companies that provide email services without be

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Dan Schaefer wrote: Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject? I have 4 in my inbox this morning with scores no more than 5. http://pastebin.com/m561b461b I haven't run it through my testbed yet, but... sought_fraud and the SARE fraud rulesets

RE: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Gary Smith
> Again, I've no idea what relevance that has to anything I've written. > > All I ever said in his thread was that I don't in general rate ISP mail > very highly, and that if an ISP blocks outgoing connections to port 25 > you can still connect to a third-party server through either the > submissi

Re: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread RW
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:27:55 -0700 Gary Smith wrote: > > > Because as I said numerous times I'm not talking about ISPs. I'm not > > sure precisely which part of "I'm not talking about ISPs" you don't > > understand. > > > > Are you not aware that there are companies that provide email > > servi

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Dan Schaefer
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 08:06 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote: Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject? Probably not a smart idea, since you insist on re-using that very subject for your list post... That is incorrect. I put double s

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 08:06 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote: > Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject? Probably not a smart idea, since you insist on re-using that very subject for your list post... -- char *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\x

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:45 -0400, Dan Schaefer wrote: > > Scored pretty high here. DCC and JMF-BLACK account for quite a bit, but > > it would have scored 5.0 and been marked as spam even without them. > > My required_score is 7. That's pretty much your local problem, then... Most scores are n

RE: sare channels

2009-08-21 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 17:35 -0700, Gary Smith wrote: > Thanks. I used them years ago back before rulesemporium actually > existed, and I know they had value at the time. I just didn't know if > the rules were migrated into the mainline or something like that. > It's been years since I really had

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-21 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 02:46 -0400, Alex wrote: > > All scored the same. Can be written as a single rule. > > I've spent some time and tried to refine my rules based on your > advice, guenther. Can I ask you to check them over again and see if > this is any better, or at least more inclusive? The

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Dan Schaefer
Scored pretty high here. DCC and JMF-BLACK account for quite a bit, but it would have scored 5.0 and been marked as spam even without them. My required_score is 7. -- Dan Schaefer Web Developer/Systems Analyst Performance Administration Corp.

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Bowie Bailey
Dan Schaefer wrote: > Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject? I > have 4 in my inbox this morning with scores no more than 5. > http://pastebin.com/m561b461b Scored pretty high here. DCC and JMF-BLACK account for quite a bit, but it would have scored 5.0 and been ma

Re: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Justin Mason
Please watch your language. This is a public mailing list, and offensive language here is inappropriate. --j. On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:41, Res wrote: > On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >> >> On 09.08.09 09:20, Res wrote: >>> >>> Correct, only relay for your own customers base

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Ned Slider
Dan Schaefer wrote: Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject? I have 4 in my inbox this morning with scores no more than 5. http://pastebin.com/m561b461b Similar here, except I get a few hits on extra RBLs, although who knows if those would have hit at the time o

RE: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Gary Smith
> Because as I said numerous times I'm not talking about ISPs. I'm not > sure precisely which part of "I'm not talking about ISPs" you don't > understand. > > Are you not aware that there are companies that provide email services > without being ISPs: Google, Fastmail, Tuffmail etc. > Just beca

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Dan Schaefer
Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject? I have 4 in my inbox this morning with scores no more than 5. http://pastebin.com/m561b461b freemail plugin http://sa.hege.li/ It looks as if the FREEMAIL_BODY is the only rule that works with this email. The From addres

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-21 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 03:00 -0400, MySQL Student wrote: > Hi, > > > mimeheader LOC_CTYP_IMG ((Content-Type =~ /image\/png/) || > > (Content-Type =~ /image\/jpg/) || (Content-Type =~ /image\/jpeg/) || > > I thought this passed through my --lint, but I only caught it the > second time. I was looki

Re: i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri 21 Aug 2009 02:06:22 PM CEST, Dan Schaefer wrote Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject? I have 4 in my inbox this morning with scores no more than 5. http://pastebin.com/m561b461b freemail plugin http://sa.hege.li/ -- xpoint

i need your indulgence

2009-08-21 Thread Dan Schaefer
Any ideas about this one, besides adding a score to match the subject? I have 4 in my inbox this morning with scores no more than 5. http://pastebin.com/m561b461b -- Dan Schaefer Web Developer/Systems Analyst Performance Administration Corp.

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-21 Thread LuKreme
On 20-Aug-2009, at 10:51, Marc Muñoz Salvador wrote: Following Martin Hepworth's instructions, I've pasted source of two e- mails: http://pastebin.ca/1536577 You removed far too many headers for anyone to make a meaningful comparison. -- Can I borrow your underpants for 10 minutes?

OT: Re: your mail

2009-08-21 Thread Anthony Cartmell
Didn't we have an email a couple weeks ago talking about inappropriate language on a public list and that it won't be tolerated? I'd agree. Looking at his / her last 10 posts, each of them has at least one swear in them. It's time for a ban, IMHO. +1 Polite discussion is useful to everyone

Re: spam mail with flagged style images

2009-08-21 Thread MySQL Student
Hi, > mimeheader LOC_CTYP_IMG  ((Content-Type =~ /image\/png/) || > (Content-Type =~ /image\/jpg/) || (Content-Type =~ /image\/jpeg/) || I thought this passed through my --lint, but I only caught it the second time. I was looking around for the (new) right way to do it, and found this in 80_addit