Re: Script to generate whitelist based on INCOMING email????

2011-03-18 Thread phuong hanu
actually, that's not the pb with mySQL command. i just wanna suggestion abt the script that can extract info from email header in my email db to create a list (whitelist) for future purpose. -- whitelist process. I'm working on the plugin but that's not the process of generating db for my

feeding bayes from the honeypot

2011-03-18 Thread LuKreme
OK, I have a 'honeypot' email address that is collecting spam. the bayes mentioning local.cf settings (SA 3.3.1) are: use_bayes 1 bayes_auto_learn 1 bayes_store_module Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore::SQL bayes_sql_dsn DBI:mysql:bayes:localhost:3306 bayes_sql_username user bayes_sql_password

Re: Script to generate whitelist based on INCOMING email????

2011-03-18 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 23:21 -0700, phuong hanu wrote: actually, that's not the pb with mySQL command. i just wanna suggestion abt the script that can extract info from email header in my email db to create a list (whitelist) for future purpose. IMO doing what you are asking about is asking

Re: Performance on Spear Phishing?

2011-03-18 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 04:22:40 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 12:58 +, Nigel Frankcom wrote: Unrelated but reminded me I hadn't posted a thanks to all those that responded about the sa-update rules. That's partly because I'm awaiting permission

Re: how to disable network tests?

2011-03-18 Thread Mark Martinec
when local dns server is working there must only be one single nameserver in resolv.conf and options rotate nust not be enabled On Friday March 18 2011 04:04:23 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: In the SA case, due to some issues with the underlying DNS Perl module, IIRC the first nameserver is

RE: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Hamad Ali
Subject: Re: SA and Spear Phishing From: guent...@rudersport.de To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:38:19 +0100 Oh, well, the freemail address again is mostly unrelated to discussions on this list -- though yeah, while hiding behind that address is not a

Trust inside a Community (was: Re: SA and Spear Phishing)

2011-03-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 00:46 +0400, Hamad Ali wrote: Oh, well, the freemail address again is mostly unrelated to discussions on this list -- though yeah, while hiding behind that address is not a show-stopper, using your real address (especially if you provide mail services) might help gain

RE: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Hamad Ali crownco...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 00:46:08 +0400 ## back on topic ## Anyway, I would highly appreciate any help on spear phishing. A solution, a guess, or just if you know whether you get spear phish at all is good information for me (I started to

Microsoft brings down major fake drug spam network

2011-03-18 Thread Bill Landry
No wonder I have seen such a huge drop in spam the past few days: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/enterprise-it/security/Microsoft-brings-down-major-fake-drug-spam-network/articleshow/7734903.cms Anyone else been noticing the decrease in spam? Bill

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread jdow
On 2011/03/17 13:28, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 03/18, Hamad Ali wrote: No. Michael doesn't want to help you and Karsten doesn't want you to participate in mass-checks because of your behavior on this list. Are you referring to ban on masschecks, or ban on receiving any

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Darxus
On 03/18, jdow wrote: As far as trust for mass checks Hamad Ali would have to trust the custodians of the mass check data with the raw email stream data he submits. No, participating in mass checks does not require sending in all your raw mail. It's nice when people do, but I believe most

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread jdow
On 2011/03/18 15:48, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 03/18, jdow wrote: As far as trust for mass checks Hamad Ali would have to trust the custodians of the mass check data with the raw email stream data he submits. No, participating in mass checks does not require sending in all your raw

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 15:39 -0700, jdow wrote: You replied to a previous thread by creating a new thread. And that's pissing people off. Some may figure a person too dumb to use reply rather than creating a new email is too hopeless to try to work with. Is he worth the energy to try to

Re: Microsoft brings down major fake drug spam network

2011-03-18 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Bill Landry, Am 2011-03-18 15:11:47, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: No wonder I have seen such a huge drop in spam the past few days: ??? I get 18-26 mio spams (36 servers with 96.000 users) per day and nothing has changed. Please read the news (not only one) more carefully

Re: Microsoft brings down major fake drug spam network

2011-03-18 Thread David F. Skoll
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:08:42 +0100 Michelle Konzack linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net wrote: No, because there are ore then one Botnet of this size now... I also haven't noticed much difference. Regards, David.

Re: Microsoft brings down major fake drug spam network

2011-03-18 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello David F. Skoll, Am 2011-03-18 20:12:01, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: I also haven't noticed much difference. ...and fortunately I use zen.spamhaus.org to block on SMTP level! More then 70% of the spams are blocked here. Spamassasin on USER level stop arround 25%... The rest are own

Re: Microsoft brings down major fake drug spam network

2011-03-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 01:08 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: No wonder I have seen such a huge drop in spam the past few days: ??? I get 18-26 mio spams (36 servers with 96.000 users) per day and nothing has changed. Please read the news (not only one) more carefully See the CBL report

RE: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Hamad Ali
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:06:15 -0700 From: j...@earthlink.net To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: SA and Spear Phishing And for well targeted spearfishing, he's still stuck because nothing distinguishes it from his normal mail flow other than unknown sender or DNS check

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 04:38 +0400, Hamad Ali wrote: [...] The human mind can be a better filter against such spam than any result of mass checks. One of the challenges behind spear phishing is that there is no single performance evaluation against it. And this inlcludes user-training

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread David F. Skoll
So when it comes to spear phish, in my view, a big question mark arises to indicate that its risk is simply unknow to mankind. This is unknown in the public domain as far as I know, which is why I posted this mail to see if any of you see any spear phish within the load of SPAM you detect.

Re: Microsoft brings down major fake drug spam network

2011-03-18 Thread Bill Landry
On 3/18/2011 5:08 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Bill Landry, Am 2011-03-18 15:11:47, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: No wonder I have seen such a huge drop in spam the past few days: ??? I get 18-26 mio spams (36 servers with 96.000 users) per day and nothing has changed. Please

RE: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Hamad Ali
Subject: Re: SA and Spear Phishing From: guent...@rudersport.de To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 02:02:35 +0100 (a) Never hand out your password. Less so in mail. No administrator ever will ask for the user's password. The

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Hamad Ali wrote: - John Hardin said: Phishing is his next project, and that even a well trained naive bayes filter might not detect it. let's be on touch on this matter then. Any progress or collaboration is highly welcomed on my side About the only thing I need

RE: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Hamad Ali
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:20:53 -0400 From: d...@roaringpenguin.com To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: SA and Spear Phishing Spear phishing is inherently hard to detect because it's carefully crafted for a small set of victims. We do

RE: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Hamad Ali
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:38:44 -0700 From: jhar...@impsec.org To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: SA and Spear Phishing On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Hamad Ali wrote: - John Hardin said: Phishing is his next project, and that even a well

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 05:33 +0400, Hamad Ali wrote: I think we have been always yelling that our users are stupid and blah, and the reality still shows that users (which we hope to be educated) are still the weakest element in the security chain. Some people still focus on user training

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 05:47 +0400, Hamad Ali wrote: - John Hardin said: Phishing is his next project, and that even a well trained naive bayes filter might not detect it. let's be on touch on this matter then. Any progress or collaboration is highly welcomed on my side About

RE: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Hamad Ali wrote: Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:38:44 -0700 From: jhar...@impsec.org To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: SA and Spear Phishing On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Hamad Ali wrote: - John Hardin said: Phishing is his next

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Karsten Br?ckelmann wrote: On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 05:47 +0400, Hamad Ali wrote: - John Hardin said: Phishing is his next project, Have you considered the public SA ham/spam corpus, and monkey.org/~jose phishing corpus? Did we just drop the spear, and downgrade to

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread jdow
(My reply to the direct copy) On 2011/03/18 17:38, Hamad Ali wrote: Interesting: (I think you have bigger problems than mere spear-phishing. Spam detection software, running on the system morticia.wizardess.wiz, has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread jdow
On 2011/03/18 18:33, Hamad Ali wrote: Subject: Re: SA and Spear Phishing From: guent...@rudersport.de To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 02:02:35 +0100 (a) Never hand out your password. Less so in mail. No administrator ever will

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread jdow
On 2011/03/18 18:38, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Hamad Ali wrote: - John Hardin said: Phishing is his next project, and that even a well trained naive bayes filter might not detect it. let's be on touch on this matter then. Any progress or collaboration is highly welcomed on my

Scanning Mailing-List Posts (was: Re: SA and Spear Phishing)

2011-03-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 20:25 -0700, jdow wrote: Interesting: (I think you have bigger problems than mere spear-phishing. 1.6 RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXYRBL: NJABL: sender is an open proxy [64p79p213p206 listed in combined.njabl.org] 0.8 RCVD_IN_SORBS_SOCKS

Re: Scanning Mailing-List Posts

2011-03-18 Thread jdow
On 2011/03/18 21:05, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 20:25 -0700, jdow wrote: Interesting: (I think you have bigger problems than mere spear-phishing. 1.6 RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXYRBL: NJABL: sender is an open proxy [64p79p213p206 listed in

RE: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Hamad Ali
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:42:25 -0700 From: j...@earthlink.net To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: SA and Spear Phishing Now, I bet SpamAssassin could be run twice, one with the standard setup and the second one with extremely trimmed

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 20:58 -0700, jdow wrote: On 2011/03/18 19:08, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Or, tell your users to *never* write down their password or any other account details in mail -- by policy, violation warrants getting fired next day. Bingo, you've hit on an outgoing

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 19:59 -0700, John Hardin wrote: On Sat, 19 Mar 2011, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Did we just drop the spear, and downgrade to general phishing? For the purposes of my phishing rules project, yes. Oh, right -- sorry, previously saw this in the context of *targeted* spear

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 20:47 -0700, jdow wrote: Actually it might not be all that hard. Tweak some specific rule matches that indicate a high probability of phishing or spearfishing to be artificially high numbers. That will at least get them labeled as spam. This is a per-site approach only.

Re: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread jdow
On 2011/03/18 21:16, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 20:58 -0700, jdow wrote: Other obvious information to be filtered would include SSNs. For privacy reasons filter for numbers that look like SSNs, reflect to user with a were you sure wrapper, and if the user responds yes send

RE: SA and Spear Phishing

2011-03-18 Thread Hamad Ali
Subject: Re: SA and Spear Phishing From: guent...@rudersport.de To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 06:02:31 +0100 [] As I mentioned earlier, spear phishing (which are highly targeted) will not have a hard time evading any

Spamassassin upgrade problem

2011-03-18 Thread Marc Perkel
Just upgrading from Fedora 12 to Fedora 14 and when I run Spamassassin (spamd) I get this: spamd: accept failed: Transport endpoint is not connected at /usr/bin/spamd line 1212 What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Marc Perkel - Sales/Support supp...@junkemailfilter.com