RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI false negatives

2013-02-06 Thread Lutz Petersen
Hi, we have real problems with SA spam scoring of some hosts that that are in list.dnswl.org with a hight trust level (RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI). This in SA gives a negative score of -5.0. The description at the dnswl website says: Recommended Usage: Skip spam filtering for medium and high ranked IPs

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-06 Thread Per Jessen
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >>Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2013-02-04 09:25: >>>port 25 open. There are multiple ways to detect dynamic IPs (rDNS >>>patterns, >>>PBL, SORBS-DUL, MAPS-DYNA) which I found more safe than TCP port 25 >>>open. > > On 04.02.13 17:27, Benny Pedersen wrote: >>i nev

Re: Whitelist and DNS blacklists in SpamAssassin

2013-02-06 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Matus UHLAR - fantomas skrev den 2013-02-04 09:25: port 25 open. There are multiple ways to detect dynamic IPs (rDNS patterns, PBL, SORBS-DUL, MAPS-DYNA) which I found more safe than TCP port 25 open. On 04.02.13 17:27, Benny Pedersen wrote: i never write "only" but my point is that if port 25

Re: IS there a simple way to add a rule of a body mail test? I have a pattern..

2013-02-06 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, David B Funk wrote: It's also easier to do an edit s/T_/__/g when you've got things working to your satisfaction to move from testing to production. s/ T_/ __/ please! :) -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALa

Re: IS there a simple way to add a rule of a body mail test? I have a pattern..

2013-02-06 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 17:45 +0200, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: Sorry but I didn't had much time to understand all of the rules syntax. When developing a meta rule that combines subrules there';s littlew point in writing descriptions for the subrules. In

Re: IS there a simple way to add a rule of a body mail test? I have a pattern..

2013-02-06 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: body __HBRW_CHARS/[\xC0-\xCB\xCD-\xDB\xDF-\xFB]?/ body __TOTAL_CHARS /[\x30-\x39\x41-\x5A\x61-\x7A\x80-\xFF]?/ Eliezer: Apoligies for not noticing this the first time through: lose the question ma

Re: IS there a simple way to add a rule of a body mail test? I have a pattern..

2013-02-06 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Martin Gregorie wrote: body HSHCH /[\xC0-\xCB\xCD-\xDB\xDF-\xFB]?/ body HSTCH /[\x30-\x39\x41-\x5A\x61-\x7A\x80-\xFF]?/ Why the question marks? They make the character optional, which in this case makes the *entire RE* optional, which is a bad idea, esp

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-02-06 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: On 2/1/2013 7:58 PM, John Hardin wrote: That latter brings up another concern for the vetted-corpora model: if a message is *removed* from a training corpora mailbox rather than reclassified, you'd have to wipe and retrain your database from scratch to rem

Re: IS there a simple way to add a rule of a body mail test? I have a pattern..

2013-02-06 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 17:45 +0200, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > Sorry but I didn't had much time to understand all of the rules syntax. > When developing a meta rule that combines subrules there';s littlew point in writing descriptions for the subrules. In addition I find its helpful to do the initi

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-02-06 Thread Ben Johnson
On 2/1/2013 7:58 PM, John Hardin wrote: > On Sat, 2 Feb 2013, RW wrote: > >> ALLOWING APPENDS >>By appends we mean the case of mail moving when the source folder is >>unknown, e.g. when you move from some other account or with tools >>like offlineimap. You should be careful with allo

Re: IS there a simple way to add a rule of a body mail test? I have a pattern..

2013-02-06 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
>Subrules (those beginning with __) are not scored. Those score lines have no effect, and should probably be removed to avoid confusion that they actually *do* have an effect. this might be the reason. I will check later. On 2/6/2013 5:40 PM, John Hardin wrote: Typo. s/b FROM_FORM. Perhaps

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-02-06 Thread Ben Johnson
On 2/1/2013 12:00 PM, John Hardin wrote: > On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: > >> John, thanks for pointing-out the problems associated with re-sending >> the messages via sendmail. >> >> I threw a line out to the Dovecot users group and learned how to move >> messages without going through

Re: IS there a simple way to add a rule of a body mail test? I have a pattern..

2013-02-06 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: Thanks, I have checked the suggested rules like this: header FROM_FORM From =~ /spamadmin\@ngtech.co.il/i score FROM_FORM -0.1 body __HBRW_ENCODING /charset=\"windows-1255\"/ The fact that the charset= isn't a body part has already been menti

Re: IS there a simple way to add a rule of a body mail test? I have a pattern..

2013-02-06 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
On 2/6/2013 11:04 AM, Wolfgang Zeikat wrote: In an older episode, on 2013-02-06 09:53, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: body __HBRW_ENCODING /charset=\"windows-1255\"/ score __HBRW_ENCODING -0.1 I use a rule mimeheader LOCAL_1251_CHARSETContent-Type =~ /charset=.{0,3}windows-1251/i IMHO, charset

Re: IS there a simple way to add a rule of a body mail test? I have a pattern..

2013-02-06 Thread Wolfgang Zeikat
In an older episode, on 2013-02-06 09:53, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: body __HBRW_ENCODING /charset=\"windows-1255\"/ score __HBRW_ENCODING -0.1 I use a rule mimeheader LOCAL_1251_CHARSETContent-Type =~ /charset=.{0,3}windows-1251/i IMHO, charset is a MIME header, not a part of the message

Re: IS there a simple way to add a rule of a body mail test? I have a pattern..

2013-02-06 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
Thanks, I have checked the suggested rules like this: header FROM_FORM From =~ /spamadmin\@ngtech.co.il/i score FROM_FORM -0.1 body __HBRW_ENCODING /charset=\"windows-1255\"/ score __HBRW_ENCODING -0.1 body __HBRW_CHARS/[\xC0-\xCB\xCD-\xDB\xDF-\xFB]?/ score __HBRW_CHARS -0.1 tflags