Re: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 10 May 2013 15:52:01 -0700 (PDT) John Hardin wrote: > > Anyway, my main point is this: Don't dismiss a shared Bayes database > > without supplying evidence that it's a bad idea. :) > Care to share your database? :) Ah... hmm. :) I would be happy to share it with SA developers who might

Re: installing on CentOS 6.4

2013-05-10 Thread Jari Fredriksson
10.05.2013 19:31, Randal, Phil kirjoitti: > pyzor and perl-Razor-Agent are in epel. > > Cheers, > > Phil Epel is a must, wonder how I forgot it. Now I have it, and those and running. Thanks! > -Original Message- > From: Jari Fredriksson [mailto:ja...@iki.fi] > Sent: 10 May 2013 17:22 > To:

Re: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 17:49 -0400, David F. Skoll wrote: > Right; pretend you're a salesperson trying to sell an anti-spam product. > "Oh, you just have to go through your old mailbox and classify a few > hundred messages by hand... then the system will work great!" > > No sale. Most likely, and

Re: [SA-Users] Re: OT: installing on CentOS 6.4

2013-05-10 Thread Jari Fredriksson
11.05.2013 01:03, John R. Dennison kirjoitti: > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 02:42:21PM -0400, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> That's strange. Now that I actually try to install it myself, I see >> the same thing (my home server uses this repo, but I haven't updated >> in a while). But if you follow the link f

Re: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread Bob Proulx
David F. Skoll wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > And would you suggest distributing your well-averaged database to > > people who install SpamAssassin to as to seed their Bayes? > > We have a distribution mechanism built into our software. > > > I think having users start with a blank slate and then

Re: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 10 May 2013, David F. Skoll wrote: Anyway, my main point is this: Don't dismiss a shared Bayes database without supplying evidence that it's a bad idea. :) Care to share your database? :) -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.org

Re: Bayes Data Base

2013-05-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 16:02 -0600, Rick Cone wrote: > I was curious if somebody out there publishes a Spamassassin Bayes > SPAM/HAM data base that someone could buy or subscribe to? If so, > please provide details if known. Wow, I'm floored. Reading the last 3 days worth of posts might get you a

Re: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 17:58 -0400, David F. Skoll wrote: > On Fri, 10 May 2013 23:14:36 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > We (probably) have a much larger sample population, so this tends not > to be as much of a problem for us. This thread is about a default Bayes database, suitable for distri-

Re: autolearn_discriminator callback not getting called.

2013-05-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 08:57 -0700, psychobyte wrote: > So i was able to write a plugin that overrides the AWL > check_from_in_auto_whitelist() eval rule. Thanks for the help Karsten. You're welcome. Was actually fun digging through the code. > # awl_ignore_from postmaster mailer-daemon

Re: [SA-Users] Re: OT: installing on CentOS 6.4

2013-05-10 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 02:42:21PM -0400, Bowie Bailey wrote: > That's strange. Now that I actually try to install it myself, I see > the same thing (my home server uses this repo, but I haven't updated > in a while). But if you follow the link for the list of packages on > the wiki page, it list

Bayes Data Base

2013-05-10 Thread Rick Cone
Hello, I was curious if somebody out there publishes a Spamassassin Bayes SPAM/HAM data base that someone could buy or subscribe to? If so, please provide details if known. Thanks, Rick

Re: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 10 May 2013 23:14:36 +0200 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > I happened to be the lucky recipient of specific spam campaigns in > languages I do not speak. Campaign referring to quite a few samples > during a specific, relatively short time period. This definitely > happened with French, Spani

Re: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 10 May 2013 15:34:13 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > The weasel words "agrees substantially" is telling. If it isn't 100% > with no false positives then at least one of those messages does not > agree. That would be the evidence requested. > I am not saying that your technique isn't useful.

Re: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread Bob Proulx
David F. Skoll wrote: > Axb wrote: > > - your HAM is somebody else's SPAM > > Do you have evidence for that? The reason I ask is that one of the > main features of our (commercial) anti-spam solution is a very large > Bayes database. Once a night, we aggregate all the tokens from votes from > al

Re: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 15:51 -0400, David F. Skoll wrote: > On Wed, 08 May 2013 19:32:26 +0200 Axb wrote: > > > - your HAM is somebody else's SPAM > > Do you have evidence for that? Evidence... examples, rather. I happened to be the lucky recipient of specific spam campaigns in languages I do n

Re: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 08 May 2013 19:32:26 +0200 Axb wrote: > - your HAM is somebody else's SPAM Do you have evidence for that? The reason I ask is that one of the main features of our (commercial) anti-spam solution is a very large Bayes database. Once a night, we aggregate all the tokens from votes from a

RE: Default Bayes Database

2013-05-10 Thread Andrew Talbot
You all are keeping me sane and grounded as I deal with the Powers That Be here trying to set this up. It's good to know that I'm not wrong (I agree with everything everyone has said, and pointed out from the beginning a default database would be awful). And this: "If he insists on starting with

Re: OT: installing on CentOS 6.4

2013-05-10 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/10/2013 1:09 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: 10.05.2013 19:27, Bowie Bailey kirjoitti: On 5/10/2013 12:22 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: I'm installaling latest CentOS, and would like to have SA in that too. But to my disappointment, it has only SA 3.1.1 and no Razor nor Pyzor. What would be th

Re: OT: installing on CentOS 6.4

2013-05-10 Thread Jari Fredriksson
10.05.2013 19:27, Bowie Bailey kirjoitti: > On 5/10/2013 12:22 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: >> I'm installaling latest CentOS, and would like to have SA in that too. >> >> But to my disappointment, it has only SA 3.1.1 and no Razor nor Pyzor. >> >> What would be the best method of get somewhat up to

RE: installing on CentOS 6.4

2013-05-10 Thread Randal, Phil
pyzor and perl-Razor-Agent are in epel. Cheers, Phil -Original Message- From: Jari Fredriksson [mailto:ja...@iki.fi] Sent: 10 May 2013 17:22 To: SpamAssassin Users Subject: OT: installing on CentOS 6.4 I'm installaling latest CentOS, and would like to have SA in that too. But to my di

Re: OT: installing on CentOS 6.4

2013-05-10 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/10/2013 12:22 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: I'm installaling latest CentOS, and would like to have SA in that too. But to my disappointment, it has only SA 3.1.1 and no Razor nor Pyzor. What would be the best method of get somewhat up to date SA to this box? rpmforge has SA 3.3.2. http:/

OT: installing on CentOS 6.4

2013-05-10 Thread Jari Fredriksson
I'm installaling latest CentOS, and would like to have SA in that too. But to my disappointment, it has only SA 3.1.1 and no Razor nor Pyzor. What would be the best method of get somewhat up to date SA to this box? -- You can rent this space for only $5 a week. signature.asc Description:

Re: autolearn_discriminator callback not getting called.

2013-05-10 Thread psychobyte
So i was able to write a plugin that overrides the AWL check_from_in_auto_whitelist() eval rule. Thanks for the help Karsten. = /etc/spamassassin/25_AwlIgnore.cf ##AWL ignore address types (periods in names are not supported) ## @see AwlIgnore.pm awl_ignore_from postmaster mailer-d

Re: Bayes_vars records on MySQL not created automatically

2013-05-10 Thread Matteo Dessalvi
Thanks for your answer Michael. Yes you are right, using "sa-learn --sync" as one of the user SA will create the proper record on the bayes_vars table. So I guess this is only a problem of having not received enough ham/spam email with this user. Matteo Da: Mi