Re: POP3/IMAP Anti Spam - A basic question though

2013-09-15 Thread hamann . w
Hi Guys, This may sound a basic questions but would like to know under what circumstances one should use IMAP/POP3 Anti Spam services? I do have AS for SMTP and is blokcing well but would like to know what consequences it would cause if I enable or disable the Pop3/imap Anti Spam

Re: How to keep SA from Attaching the spammy messages (version control)

2013-09-15 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sat, 2013-09-14 at 21:54 -0400, Thomas Harold wrote: On 9/13/2013 9:01 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Kris Deugau kdeu...@vianet.ca writes: From man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf: report_safe 0 Thanks, I see I commented it out for some experiment several mnths ago, and of course, forgot

Re: How to keep SA from Attaching the spammy messages (version control)

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Thomas Harold thomas-li...@nybeta.com writes: On 9/13/2013 9:01 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Kris Deugau kdeu...@vianet.ca writes: From man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf: report_safe 0 Thanks, I see I commented it out for some experiment several mnths ago, and of course, forgot to uncomment.

How to make SA include Report for all msgs

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I make SA include the 'X-Spam-Report:' header and report for all messages rather than just the spam messages? I have `report_safe 0' set but that only causes SA to includes the Report header for spam msgs.

FuzzyOCR

2013-09-15 Thread Jason Hirsh
OK went in and told FuzzyOcr not to scan jpeg and no more errors which is logical as the jpegtopnm program is not executed Hopefully this will end my build up of junk in /var/amavis which I attributed to the failed scans

Re: How to make SA include Report for all msgs

2013-09-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 15.09.13 08:58, Harry Putnam wrote: How can I make SA include the 'X-Spam-Report:' header and report for all messages rather than just the spam messages? I have `report_safe 0' set but that only causes SA to includes the Report header for spam msgs. see doc for add_header option -- Matus

Re: POP3/IMAP Anti Spam - A basic question though

2013-09-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
Blason rock skrev den 2013-09-15 07:37: This may sound a basic questions but would like to know under what circumstances one should use IMAP/POP3 Anti Spam services? show link to a howto else its not a good question I do have AS for SMTP and is blokcing well but would like to know what

Re: How to make SA include Report for all msgs

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk writes: On 15.09.13 08:58, Harry Putnam wrote: How can I make SA include the 'X-Spam-Report:' header and report for all messages rather than just the spam messages? I have `report_safe 0' set but that only causes SA to includes the Report header for spam

Re: How to make SA include Report for all msgs

2013-09-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 15.09.13 08:58, Harry Putnam wrote: How can I make SA include the 'X-Spam-Report:' header and report for all messages rather than just the spam messages? I have `report_safe 0' set but that only causes SA to includes the Report header for spam msgs. Matus UHLAR - fantomas

Re: FuzzyOCR

2013-09-15 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013, Jason Hirsh wrote: OK went in and told FuzzyOcr not to scan jpeg and no more errors which is logical as the jpegtopnm program is not executed Hopefully this will end my build up of junk in /var/amavis which I attributed to the failed scans It is, however, a seriously

SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
SA is letting mail thru as ham that should be spam apparently based on what is too low a score (for my mail) for URIBL_JP_SURBL which was 1.9 by default. I pushed it up to 4. But then I see a report that shows a total score of 4.9 when 4.0 is shown for URIBL_JP_SURBL 1.0 is shown for

Re: How to make SA include Report for all msgs

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk writes: On 15.09.13 08:58, Harry Putnam wrote: How can I make SA include the 'X-Spam-Report:' header and report for all messages rather than just the spam messages? I have `report_safe 0' set but that only causes

Re: POP3/IMAP Anti Spam - A basic question though

2013-09-15 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2013-09-15 at 06:48 +, haman...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Guys, This may sound a basic questions but would like to know under what circumstances one should use IMAP/POP3 Anti Spam services? I do have AS for SMTP and is blokcing well but would like to know what consequences it

Re: procmail/spassassin training session

2013-09-15 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: 1) Does it matter that I have autolearn turned off in spamassassin conf filt 'local.cf' while doing my sandbox work No, it doesn't. In fact it's probably better that way because SA won't waste time updating the bayes

Re: POP3/IMAP Anti Spam - A basic question though

2013-09-15 Thread Blason rock
I agree an wouldnt harm if I disable it as my smtp scanning is definitely running fine. What I was thinking about is does imap and pop3 AS scanning only needed for ISP kindaa environment? Since I do run small setup I know all my users are trusted and have AV running on their desktops. So they wont

Re: POP3/IMAP Anti Spam - A basic question though

2013-09-15 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2013-09-15 at 23:27 +0530, Blason rock wrote: I agree an wouldnt harm if I disable it as my smtp scanning is definitely running fine. What I was thinking about is does imap and pop3 AS scanning only needed for ISP kindaa environment? Since I do run small setup I know all my users are

Re: procmail/spassassin training session

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Bart Schaefer barton.schae...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: 1) Does it matter that I have autolearn turned off in spamassassin conf filt 'local.cf' while doing my sandbox work No, it doesn't. In fact it's probably better that way

Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-15 Thread RW
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:19:12 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: SA is letting mail thru as ham that should be spam apparently based on what is too low a score (for my mail) for URIBL_JP_SURBL which was 1.9 by default. I pushed it up to 4. But then I see a report that shows a total score of 4.9

Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes: On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:19:12 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: [...] I assumed it had something to do with rounding or something so I increased the score to 4.1 to get that message to break the spam level of 5. Now the same mail shows a total of 5.1 4.1

Re: SA Scoring... mysterious point loss

2013-09-15 Thread RW
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:15:46 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com writes: I had a look into it, and it seems that rounding is handled in an unusual way. It starts by rounding to the nearest 0.1, and then subtracts 0.1 if the result is non-spam to avoid the case of:

Really getting discouraged... when does the learning happen?

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been trying to `teach' SA to spam from ham in my mail system. I've made it thru two main learning sessions where I ran around 450 msgs (each time) thru sa-learn spam/ham and yet SA is still incapable of getting it right more than about 40 % or maybe less. Not sure how to figure that out

Re: Really getting discouraged... when does the learning happen?

2013-09-15 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I've been trying to `teach' SA to spam from ham in my mail system. I've made it thru two main learning sessions where I ran around 450 msgs (each time) thru sa-learn spam/ham and yet SA is still incapable of getting it

How do I find a parent rule for a test?

2013-09-15 Thread Abhijeet Rastogi
Hi all, I wanted to disable few RBLs while doing that I observed that if I want to just disable spamhaus, I've to actually disable __RCVD_IN_ZEN after disabling the other spamhaus related checks like check_rbl_sub.. How do I know that __RCVD_IN_ZEN is related to a check like RCVD_IN_SBL? I