Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Axb
On 01/28/2015 05:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: BTW it is not visible which users are core-developers on this list and which are not - until now i thought you are as example I am part of the dev team or as you say "core-developers" which doesn't mean I have to be a Perl monger. There's other task

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.01.2015 um 16:52 schrieb Axb: On 01/28/2015 04:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: is AFAIK relevant in context of sa-learn to not re-train the same messages again and again - and it has it's own bugs becaue for a few messages it contains random parts of the message itself, fire sa-learn on the

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.01.2015 um 16:39 schrieb Axb: On 01/28/2015 03:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: * third: if you would be a smart upstream in case of a company admin asking for a change instead "write a patch" you could make a offer talking about money to include the change in the

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Axb
On 01/28/2015 04:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: is AFAIK relevant in context of sa-learn to not re-train the same messages again and again - and it has it's own bugs becaue for a few messages it contains random parts of the message itself, fire sa-learn on the whole corpus would add these messages

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Axb
On 01/28/2015 03:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: * third: if you would be a smart upstream in case of a company admin asking for a change instead "write a patch" you could make a offer talking about money to include the change in the next upstream version - we sponso

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.01.2015 um 16:24 schrieb Axb: On 01/28/2015 03:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: * first: it is a bug to write/lock when auto_expire / auto_learn is off bayes_seen is AFAIK relevant in context of sa-learn to not re-train the same messages again and again - and it has it's own bugs becau

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Axb
On 01/28/2015 03:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: * first: it is a bug to write/lock when auto_expire / auto_learn is off bayes_seen

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 15:04 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > no need for mount own partitions on recent linux systems > that's what namespaces are for and systemd has easy interfaces > Fair enough: I thought you were talking about some sort of site-wide read-only mount, but using systemd to limit the

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.01.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Axb: On 01/28/2015 03:18 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 1/28/2015 9:04 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: my main point is that i don't want the locking IO when nothing then the self developed maintainance scripts for the bayes has a business to write anything there - it s

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Axb
On 01/28/2015 03:18 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: On 1/28/2015 9:04 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: my main point is that i don't want the locking IO when nothing then the self developed maintainance scripts for the bayes has a business to write anything there - it should be only read and in the best cas

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 1/28/2015 9:04 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: my main point is that i don't want the locking IO when nothing then the self developed maintainance scripts for the bayes has a business to write anything there - it should be only read and in the best case from each spamc-forker only opened once in hi

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.01.2015 um 12:11 schrieb Martin Gregorie: On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 16:40 -0800, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2015, Reindl Harald wrote: if understand you correctly we agree that there is no reason /var can't be mounted read-only? Other than the historical practice that /var is inten

Re: why does SA without autolearn need bayes read-write?

2015-01-28 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 16:40 -0800, John Hardin wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jan 2015, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > if understand you correctly we agree that there is no reason /var can't be > > mounted read-only? > > Other than the historical practice that /var is intended to contain > varying data, and t