Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.03.2015 um 00:54 schrieb RW: On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 23:57:13 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.03.2015 um 23:34 schrieb RW: On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 22:46:14 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: frankly i trained over months with *hand chosen* mail smaples and spent nearly two weeks day and night to r

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread RW
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 23:57:13 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 18.03.2015 um 23:34 schrieb RW: > > On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 22:46:14 +0100 > > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> > >> frankly i trained over months with *hand chosen* mail smaples and > >> spent nearly two weeks day and night to remove bayes-posi

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2015 um 23:34 schrieb RW: On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 22:46:14 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: frankly i trained over months with *hand chosen* mail smaples and spent nearly two weeks day and night to remove bayes-posioning from the samples and rebuild bayes from scratch leading in reduce the ntok

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread RW
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 22:46:14 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > > frankly i trained over months with *hand chosen* mail smaples and > spent nearly two weeks day and night to remove bayes-posioning from > the samples and rebuild bayes from scratch leading in reduce the > ntokens from 170 to 150

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2015 um 22:58 schrieb Axb: On 03/18/2015 10:46 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.03.2015 um 22:29 schrieb David B Funk: > Just have an internal mail-submission port that isn't routed thru SA may not be possible if you have hundrets of domains without setup a internal DNS view just for

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Axb
On 03/18/2015 10:46 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.03.2015 um 22:29 schrieb David B Funk: > Just have an internal mail-submission port that isn't routed thru SA may not be possible if you have hundrets of domains without setup a internal DNS view just for a different MX In general you don't

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Axb
On 03/18/2015 10:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.03.2015 um 22:24 schrieb Axb: On 03/18/2015 09:48 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: I noticed that some of the Zimbra auto-generated emails (reports on various bits) are getting hit with RBL scoring for some customers. This appears to be because

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2015 um 22:29 schrieb David B Funk: > Just have an internal mail-submission port that isn't routed thru SA may not be possible if you have hundrets of domains without setup a internal DNS view just for a different MX In general you don't want auto-mail running thru SA for this reaso

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2015 um 22:24 schrieb Axb: On 03/18/2015 09:48 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: I noticed that some of the Zimbra auto-generated emails (reports on various bits) are getting hit with RBL scoring for some customers. This appears to be because they are (quite reasonably) using private IPs

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.03.2015 um 21:48 schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: I noticed that some of the Zimbra auto-generated emails (reports on various bits) are getting hit with RBL scoring for some customers. This appears to be because they are (quite reasonably) using pri

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
--On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 11:11 PM +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: The IP is clearly listed in trusted_networks your problem are not RBL's your problem are URIBL's and so mail content ask yourself why autogenerated mails contains crap URLs listed on URIBL_BLACK, URIBL_JP_SURBL *and* URIBL_

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Axb
On 03/18/2015 09:48 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: I noticed that some of the Zimbra auto-generated emails (reports on various bits) are getting hit with RBL scoring for some customers. This appears to be because they are (quite reasonably) using private IPs on some of thier internal Zimbra serv

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2015 um 22:11 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 18.03.2015 um 21:48 schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: I noticed that some of the Zimbra auto-generated emails (reports on various bits) are getting hit with RBL scoring for some customers. This appears to be because they are (quite reasonably) using

RE: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Marieke Janssen
Hi Quanah, X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=10.297 tagged_above=-10 required=10 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-0.5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLACK=3.25, URIBL_DBL_SPAM=2.5, URIBL_JP_SURBL=1.25, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.514, URIBL_SBL_A=0.1, URIBL_WS_SURBL=1.608, URI_HEX=1.

Re: Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2015 um 21:48 schrieb Quanah Gibson-Mount: I noticed that some of the Zimbra auto-generated emails (reports on various bits) are getting hit with RBL scoring for some customers. This appears to be because they are (quite reasonably) using private IPs on some of thier internal Zimbra se

Skipping RBL checks for internal servers

2015-03-18 Thread Quanah Gibson-Mount
I noticed that some of the Zimbra auto-generated emails (reports on various bits) are getting hit with RBL scoring for some customers. This appears to be because they are (quite reasonably) using private IPs on some of thier internal Zimbra servers. However, when it goes through the MTA, it ge

Re: SpamRATS RBL?

2015-03-18 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 3/18/2015 11:35 AM, Axb wrote: On 03/18/2015 03:21 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Anyone use this RBL or familiar with it? Pros/cons? Efficacy data? regards, KAM What's the problem that you need yet another RBL? Just researching and they appear broken/delisting issues. Regards, KAM

Re: SpamRATS RBL?

2015-03-18 Thread Axb
On 03/18/2015 03:21 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Anyone use this RBL or familiar with it? Pros/cons? Efficacy data? regards, KAM What's the problem that you need yet another RBL? I can imagine that many RBLs may be using some parts of DNSWL for their exception lists so servers involved is a s

Re: SpamRATS RBL?

2015-03-18 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: "Kevin A. McGrail" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:21:39 -0400 Anyone use this RBL or familiar with it? Pros/cons? Efficacy data? regards, KAM I get 5% spam hits on DYNA and 10% on NOPTR. The SPAM list isn't that great (< 1% spam and some false hits). -jeff

Re: SpamRATS RBL?

2015-03-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 18.03.15 10:21, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Anyone use this RBL or familiar with it? Pros/cons? Efficacy data? just few notices from different people (including me) complaining about their delisting policy. I don't recommend using those... -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://ww

SpamRATS RBL?

2015-03-18 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Anyone use this RBL or familiar with it? Pros/cons? Efficacy data? regards, KAM

Re: Recommendations for ASF SA Implementation

2015-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
please stay on list Am 18.03.2015 um 10:46 schrieb Anthony Cartmell: no, we have per day 300 SA rejects and had 20 clamav hits before change the order, now the SA reject-count is not much different and only 5 clamav hits per day I was just reporting that MailScanner had changed its order of sc

Re: Recommendations for ASF SA Implementation

2015-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2015 um 10:30 schrieb Anthony Cartmell: reverse the order in "smtpd_milters" but keep in mind that a well trained SA rejetcs much more mails than clamav and while clamav needs less ressources you by-pass the whole virus canner that way MailScanner used to scan in that order too, SA th