Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 08:31 schrieb Emin Akbulut: I tried to train SA with tons of spam messages which contains zip file (includes .js) The max spam score was lesser than 5 so I did set 4 to delete messsages. Then same kind of spam messages appear with the score of lesser than 2. In short; trainin

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 10:32 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 20.05.2016 um 08:31 schrieb Emin Akbulut: I tried to train SA with tons of spam messages which contains zip file (includes .js) The max spam score was lesser than 5 so I did set 4 to delete messsages. Then same kind of spam messages appear with

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread @lbutlr
On May 20, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > postscreen_dnsbl_action = enforce > postscreen_greet_action = enforce [long list] What do you set postscreen_dnsbl_threshold to? -- "Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him an he's warm for the rest of his life."

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 11:40 schrieb @lbutlr: On May 20, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: postscreen_dnsbl_action = enforce postscreen_greet_action = enforce [long list] What do you set postscreen_dnsbl_threshold to? 8 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:31:48 +0300 Emin Akbulut wrote: > What do you suggest to fight these spams? ClamAV is basically useless. We do it the hard way. We list the contents of attached archives (using "lsar") and have filename-extension rules that block .js inside .zip files. While this can le

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 13:07 schrieb Dianne Skoll: On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:31:48 +0300 Emin Akbulut wrote: What do you suggest to fight these spams? ClamAV is basically useless no it is not, look at the sanesecurity foxhole signatures http://sanesecurity.com/usage/signatures/ signature.asc

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Rejaine Monteiro
I hitched a ride in this thread and I appreciate the tip of the foxhole and clamav! I was also having problems here! solved now. On 20-05-2016 09:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.05.2016 um 13:07 schrieb Dianne Skoll: On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:31:48 +0300 Emin Akbulut wrote: What do you sugges

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Kris Deugau
Emin Akbulut wrote: > I tried to train SA with tons of spam messages which contains zip file > (includes .js) > The max spam score was lesser than 5 so I did set 4 to delete messsages. > > Then same kind of spam messages appear with the score of lesser than 2. > > In short; training the SA seems

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 16:20 schrieb Kris Deugau: Emin Akbulut wrote: I tried to train SA with tons of spam messages which contains zip file (includes .js) The max spam score was lesser than 5 so I did set 4 to delete messsages. Then same kind of spam messages appear with the score of lesser than 2

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Paul Stead
Second, the foxhole_js database is what you're looking for Paul On 20/05/16 13:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.05.2016 um 13:07 schrieb Dianne Skoll: On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:31:48 +0300 Emin Akbulut wrote: What do you suggest to fight these spams? ClamAV is basically useless no it is no

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Rick Macdougall
On 2016-05-20 10:36 AM, Paul Stead wrote: Second, the foxhole_js database is what you're looking for Paul On 20/05/16 13:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.05.2016 um 13:07 schrieb Dianne Skoll: On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:31:48 +0300 Emin Akbulut wrote: What do you suggest to fight these spams?

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 16:50 schrieb Rick Macdougall: On 2016-05-20 10:36 AM, Paul Stead wrote: Second, the foxhole_js database is what you're looking for Paul On 20/05/16 13:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.05.2016 um 13:07 schrieb Dianne Skoll: On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:31:48 +0300 Emin Akbulut

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread David Jones
>From: Dianne Skoll >Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:07 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip >On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:31:48 +0300 >Emin Akbulut wrote: >> What do you suggest to fight these spams? >ClamAV is basically useless. ClamAV helps

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Fri, 20 May 2016 15:00:55 + David Jones wrote: > >From: Dianne Skoll > >ClamAV is basically useless. > ClamAV helps a little with the unofficial sigatures. The operative word here is "a little". I find that the unofficial signatures that are good at actually catching bad stuff have extr

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Rick Macdougall
On 2016-05-20 11:00 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.05.2016 um 16:50 schrieb Rick Macdougall: On 2016-05-20 10:36 AM, Paul Stead wrote: Second, the foxhole_js database is what you're looking for Paul On 20/05/16 13:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.05.2016 um 13:07 schrieb Dianne Skoll: On

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 17:11 schrieb Rick Macdougall: On 2016-05-20 11:00 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 20.05.2016 um 16:50 schrieb Rick Macdougall: On 2016-05-20 10:36 AM, Paul Stead wrote: Second, the foxhole_js database is what you're looking for Paul On 20/05/16 13:11, Reindl Harald wrote:

re: exploitable LinkedIn forwarder/whatever

2016-05-20 Thread Chip M.
Thanks Andreas! :) Wednesday am, after re-checking that the specific spam URL was still forwarding to the spam payload destination, I emailed that role account... and to my (VERY pleasant) shock, received an auto-reply which did NOT direct me to an unuseable web form (i.e. the Google model of prev

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Chip M.
At 04:07 AM 5/20/2016, RoaringPenguin wrote: >filename-extension rules that block .js >inside .zip files. +1 We also block these scripting related Windows extensions: .hta .jse .vbs .wsf Those were originally "pre-emptive", however I've now seen both ".hta" and ".

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 17:29 schrieb Chip M.: P.S. As of about 1700 UTC yesterday, I'm seeing significant volume of zipped macro-encrusted "doc" files /etc/clamd.d/scan.conf: ScanOLE2 yes OLE2BlockMacros yes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Vincent Fox
+1 Yesterday, 6% of our mail flow was rejected by Foxhole.Zip family. They are #1 on our list about 50% of the time for weeks now. I got a commendation last week for prevention work, so rare in email adminning. Security team would be swimming in overtime if it weren't for foxhole_js in particula

Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Alex
Hi, Is it necessary to use the Envelope-From address when whitelisting with whitelist_from_spf? The docs are unclear as to whether I can just use the regular From address, which would be easier for me. Apparently using the regular From address appears to not be considered, however. Perhaps I shou

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 19:03 schrieb Alex: Is it necessary to use the Envelope-From address when whitelisting with whitelist_from_spf? The docs are unclear as to whether I can just use the regular From address, which would be easier for me SPF is by definition only about envelopes however, just use

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Vincent Fox
SPF is only about envelopes? Unless you are Microsoft, who check against the From in the header. From: Reindl Harald Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23:45 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz Am 20.05.2016 um 19

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
Sender-ID is not SPF On 20. maj 2016 19.28.11 Vincent Fox wrote: SPF is only about envelopes? Unless you are Microsoft, who check against the From in the header. From: Reindl Harald Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23:45 AM To: users@spamassassin.apach

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 20 May 2016, Dianne Skoll wrote: On Fri, 20 May 2016 09:31:48 +0300 Emin Akbulut wrote: What do you suggest to fight these spams? ClamAV is basically useless. We do it the hard way. We list the contents of attached archives (using "lsar") and have filename-extension rules that blo

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2016-05-20 19:03, Alex wrote: Is it necessary to use the Envelope-From address when whitelisting with whitelist_from_spf? The docs are unclear as to whether I can just use the regular From address, which would be easier for me. use opendkim for this test, and if you have Sender-ID on your o

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.05.2016 um 19:25 schrieb Vincent Fox: SPF is only about envelopes? yes Unless you are Microsoft, who check against the From in the header. nonsense you likely confuse DMARC with SPF From: Reindl Harald Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23:45

Re: SA cannot block messages with attached zip

2016-05-20 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Fri, 20 May 2016 17:47:09 -0500 (CDT) David B Funk wrote: > > We do it the hard way. We list the contents of attached archives > > (using "lsar") and have filename-extension rules that block .js > > inside .zip files. While this can lead to some FPs, which we handle > > with selective whitel

Re: Whitelisting and Expedia/Orbitz

2016-05-20 Thread Nick Edwards
clueless newbie troll microsofts own attempt at SPF did allow checking in "from" On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 2:50 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 20.05.2016 um 19:25 schrieb Vincent Fox: > >> SPF is only about envelopes? >> > > yes > > Unless you are Microsoft, who check against the From in the h