Re: Which DNSBLs do you use?

2016-06-17 Thread David Jones
>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 7:25 AM, Vincent Fox wrote: >> >> Greylisting imo helps a lot with RBL lag. Greylisting is a must and it definitely helps with RBL lag. >It can, but it's definitely a double edge sword. Depending on the way the >remote MTA works, I've experienced emails being delayed for

Re: Which DNSBLs do you use?

2016-06-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.06.2016 um 16:37 schrieb Shawn Bakhtiar: On Jun 17, 2016, at 7:25 AM, Vincent Fox wrote: Greylisting imo helps a lot with RBL lag. It can, but it's definitely a double edge sword. Depending on the way the remote MTA works, I've experienced emails being delayed for quite sometime. I

Re: Which DNSBLs do you use?

2016-06-17 Thread Shawn Bakhtiar
> On Jun 17, 2016, at 7:25 AM, Vincent Fox wrote: > > Greylisting imo helps a lot with RBL lag. It can, but it's definitely a double edge sword. Depending on the way the remote MTA works, I've experienced emails being delayed for quite sometime. I had a lot of users requesting to be removed f

Re: Which DNSBLs do you use?

2016-06-17 Thread Vincent Fox
Greylisting imo helps a lot with RBL lag. Delay suspect IP long enough that by the time they retry, if they do, they are on half a dozen RBL and score high and reject. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2016, at 13:23, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > Am 17.06.2016 um 02:57 schrieb Alex: >>> For

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/06/16 14:49, RW wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:07:33 +0100 Sebastian Arcus wrote: Site-wide bayes files are owned by spamd. Regarding the daemon, it is started with --socketowner=spamd and socketpath=spamd. Is this enough, or should it be actually started with "su" as "spamd" user? If

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
>> Site-wide bayes files are owned >> by spamd. Regarding the daemon, it is started with >> --socketowner=spamd and socketpath=spamd. Is this enough, or >> should it be actually started with "su" as "spamd" user? On 17.06.16 14:49, RW wrote: If you start it as root with the -u spamd (or --usern

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.06.2016 um 15:49 schrieb RW: and not bother with setting owner and group for the socket? Is there any particular reason for even using a socket file? unix sockets are faster the only particular reason for *not* usng sockets is when you need to access the daemon from other machines

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread RW
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:07:33 +0100 Sebastian Arcus wrote: > > > >> Site-wide bayes files are owned > >> by spamd. Regarding the daemon, it is started with > >> --socketowner=spamd and socketpath=spamd. Is this enough, or > >> should it be actually started with "su" as "spamd" user? If you st

Re: Penalizing code not working

2016-06-17 Thread Bill Cole
On 14 Jun 2016, at 11:47, spamassas...@linkcheck.co.uk wrote: The code below is found in several places online and for some months I have been trying to get it to work, but whatever I do it flags up Fail even if the source is good. Typically I have been concentrating on gmail: from known good

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 16/06/16 18:46, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I have a particular server running spamd which uses bayes every time I test it by hand, but apparently never when it goes through exim/spamd. I run everything (both the spamd daemon and the manual tests) as user spamd. I checked the permissions on the b

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/06/16 04:46, Bill Cole wrote: On 16 Jun 2016, at 13:46, Sebastian Arcus wrote: I have a particular server running spamd Which must run on a particular platform. Since SpamAssassin and Exim can run on a decade's worth of versions of at least 9 different OSs and one of those (Linux) has

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/06/16 13:42, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.06.2016 um 14:29 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: On 17/06/16 00:03, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.06.2016 um 19:46 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: I have a particular server running spamd which uses bayes every time I test it by hand, but apparently never when

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.06.2016 um 14:29 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: On 17/06/16 00:03, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.06.2016 um 19:46 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: I have a particular server running spamd which uses bayes every time I test it by hand, but apparently never when it goes through exim/spamd then you nee

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/06/16 00:03, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.06.2016 um 19:46 schrieb Sebastian Arcus: I have a particular server running spamd which uses bayes every time I test it by hand, but apparently never when it goes through exim/spamd then you need to run it as the correct user or train it as the

Re: Spamassassin uses bayes, but spamd doesn't

2016-06-17 Thread Sebastian Arcus
On 17/06/16 03:46, Yu Qian wrote: you can use spamd -D to check the log for exactly what bayes db path your spamd was using. Thank Yu. Based on the output below, it appears to find and use the sitewide bayes files ok: # spamd -D 2>&1 | grep -i bayes Jun 17 13:32:51.719 [4380] dbg: plugin: l

Re: Which DNSBLs do you use?

2016-06-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.06.2016 um 02:54 schrieb Alex: On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 6:35 PM, David Jones wrote: We were also using the senderscore RBL based on Reindel and others recommendations, but disabled it after it just rejected too much ham. The senderscore.org RBL scores for low reputation are a pain s

Re: Which DNSBLs do you use?

2016-06-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.06.2016 um 02:57 schrieb Alex: For example, 212.227.126.135, scores 4 out of a 100 on senderscore. It also currently hits just sorbs. The individual score for each would have to be so low, even with such a poor reputation, that it hardly makes it worthwhile. I can't reject just on the alm

SA loggin mechanism

2016-06-17 Thread Olivier
Hi, I am trying to understand how SA loggin is working. >From Mail::SpamAssassin::Logger I see that: log_message($level, @message) Log a message at a specific level. Levels are specified as strings: "warn", "error", "info", and "dbg". The first element of the message must