Re: Best practice for learning submissions

2018-07-23 Thread Pedro David Marco
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 6:50:13 AM GMT+2, Bill Cole wrote: > Learning ham is harder Totally agree Bill, unless you use Microsoft technics...:  send everything to spam folder and if moved to inbox by user then... it is ham! -PedroD

Re: Best practice for learning submissions

2018-07-23 Thread Pedro David Marco
>On Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 1:38:59 AM GMT+2, Nick Bright wrote: >So I ask: what is the best practice for learning submissions when using  >site-wide bayes? Nick, do all your users use the same MUA?  There are some user level "plug-ins" that may be configured to send out the sample to y

Re: Help with own RBL

2018-07-23 Thread Pedro David Marco
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 12:07:52 AM GMT+2, David B Funk wrote: >What kind of 'calculations with that IP' ? Thanks Dave... calculations are complex and done with a an external script that reads some files parsing them... -PedroD

Re: Help with own RBL

2018-07-23 Thread Pedro David Marco
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018, 12:04:57 AM GMT+2, Kris Deugau wrote: >IIRC PowerDNS can be set up to run Lua code fragments of some kind on  DNS >requests.     Thanks! i did not know it. i have checked it and Lus cannot exec eternanl commands to get a possible "answer"... > To my

Re: Best practice for learning submissions

2018-07-23 Thread Bill Cole
[N.B.: Your prior correspondent is not able to post to this list, so we only saw your side of that exchange.] On 23 Jul 2018, at 19:38 (-0400), Nick Bright wrote: When requesting submissions from users for use with sa-learn, if they are going to forward the message somewhere; is it best for th

Re: Best practice for learning submissions

2018-07-23 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Nick Bright wrote: On 7/23/2018 7:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and even if - whats the point to store the surrounding messages in the corpus which you should keep forever if you need rebuild from scratch later? what is the problem you try to solveand why can't you just stor

Re: Best practice for learning submissions

2018-07-23 Thread Nick Bright
On 7/23/2018 8:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: what exactly is the problem right-click on the attachments, save them to files and drag&drop them to the imap training folder? What on earth is even right about it? I'm not going to do that for hundreds or even thousands of submissions sent in by users

Re: Best practice for learning submissions

2018-07-23 Thread Nick Bright
On 7/23/2018 7:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and even if - whats the point to store the surrounding messages in the corpus which you should keep forever if you need rebuild from scratch later? what is the problem you try to solveand why can't you just store the attachment instead the whole mail

Re: Best practice for learning submissions

2018-07-23 Thread Nick Bright
On 7/23/2018 7:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: surely, just right-click on the attachment and save it to a raw-message (eml-file) So that's a "no" (sa-learn doesn't know how to 'right click' an attachment). -- --- - Nick Bright

Re: Best practice for learning submissions

2018-07-23 Thread Nick Bright
On 7/23/2018 7:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: provide imap-shared folders and code a script which fetches the raw-messages and fires sa-learn to the eml-files *never* train inline-forwardings And when that isn't an option, for example with POP3 clients? Is it possible to train on attached forwar

Best practice for learning submissions

2018-07-23 Thread Nick Bright
When requesting submissions from users for use with sa-learn, if they are going to forward the message somewhere; is it best for that to be forwarded as an attachment, or forwarded inline? Will sa-learn automatically understand "the spam is attached" if it's an attachment? Learning from a mail

Re: Help with own RBL

2018-07-23 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Pedro David Marco wrote: Not exactly a SA question but... i am planning to run my own RBL with a nameserver, that when queried for an IP that is not in its database, does some calculations with that IP and replies accordingly (caching the results)... Please, does anyone k

Re: Help with own RBL

2018-07-23 Thread Kris Deugau
Pedro David Marco wrote: Not exactly a SA question but... i am planning to run my own RBL with a nameserver, that when queried for an IP that is not in its database, does some calculations with that IP and replies accordingly (caching the results)... Please, does anyone know of any nameserve

Re: Help with own RBL

2018-07-23 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Pedro David Marco : > Not exactly a SA question but... > i am planning to run my own RBL with a nameserver, that when queried for an > IP that is not in its database, does some calculations with that IP and > replies accordingly (caching the results)... > Please, does anyone know of any nameser

Help with own RBL

2018-07-23 Thread Pedro David Marco
Not exactly a SA question but... i am planning to run my own RBL with a nameserver, that when queried for an IP that is not in its database, does some calculations with that IP and replies accordingly (caching the results)... Please, does anyone know of any nameserver that can do that? To my know

Re: sa-learn - not able to get a byes lock

2018-07-23 Thread Nick Bright
On 7/19/2018 1:22 PM, John Hardin wrote: Is this something I should fix on a flat file bayes DB, or should I look at going to Bayes-SQL? Redis would probably be better. I'm having some trouble finding any kind of significant documentation about this. Could somebody please point me at some