Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On Mon, 2017-05-01 at 17:13 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Is there something on vbounce that does notappl for you? loading it and settings proper whitelist_bounce_relays should hit all bounces that did not come as response to mail from your systems... On 01.05.17 19:11, Martin Gregorie

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On 30 Apr 2017, at 10:17, David Jones wrote: 99_mailspike.cf --- shortcircuit RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5 on score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 -3.2 score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 -2.2 score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 -1.2 score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL -0.82 score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL 1.2 score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L2 0.2

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On Mon, 2017-05-01 at 17:13 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > Is there something on vbounce that does notappl for you? > loading it and settings proper whitelist_bounce_relays should hit all > bounces that did not come as response to mail from your systems... > Obvious spam was being

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On Mon, 1 May 2017, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, Alex wrote: > I'm seeing far too many legitimate bounces being tagged as spam > because they are hitting stock SA rules, including bayes50 ... On 30.04.17 12:25, John Hardin wrote: BAYES_50 should have no real effect on

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On Sun, 2017-04-30 at 14:42 -0400, Alex wrote: It sounds like you're saying you're adding points to bounce emails that don't originate from email sent by your system? On 30.04.17 20:25, Martin Gregorie wrote: Correct, or more specifically this is intended to catch spam spoofing my domain as

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, Alex wrote: I'm seeing far too many legitimate bounces being tagged as spam because they are hitting stock SA rules, including bayes50 ... On 30.04.17 12:25, John Hardin wrote: BAYES_50 should have no real effect on the score of a message, because that's Bayes saying

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

From: Alex >On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:32 PM, David Jones wrote: >>>From: Alex >> 99_mailspike.cf --- shortcircuit RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5 on score RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 -3.2 >>>... >> >>>I've

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On Sun, 2017-04-30 at 17:10 -0400, Alex wrote: > I'm talking about legitimate, non-spam mail sent by users on our > systems with valid accounts having their bounces being tagged as > spam. > And of course, any valid bounce must be delivered. > > In any case, regardless of whether I get bounced

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:57:49 -0400 Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having a problem with bounce messages being tagged as spam. What > is the proper way to handle legitimate bounce messages these days? Is > it safe to bypass scanning DSN bounce messages and route them directly > with postfix? > > I've

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

Hi, On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:32 PM, David Jones wrote: >>From: Alex > >>On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:17 AM, David Jones wrote: From: Alex >>> I'm having a problem with bounce messages being tagged as spam.

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

Hi, On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Sun, 2017-04-30 at 14:42 -0400, Alex wrote: >> It sounds like you're saying you're adding points to bounce emails >> that don't originate from email sent by your system? >> > Correct, or more specifically this

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

>From: Alex >On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:17 AM, David Jones wrote: >>>From: Alex >> >>>I'm having a problem with bounce messages being tagged as spam. What >>>is the proper way to handle legitimate bounce messages these days? Is

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On Sun, 2017-04-30 at 14:42 -0400, Alex wrote: > It sounds like you're saying you're adding points to bounce emails > that don't originate from email sent by your system? > Correct, or more specifically this is intended to catch spam spoofing my domain as sender and rejected by its destination.

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, Alex wrote: I'm seeing far too many legitimate bounces being tagged as spam because they are hitting stock SA rules, including bayes50 ... BAYES_50 should have no real effect on the score of a message, because that's Bayes saying "insufficient data for an opinion". --

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

Hi, On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > On Sat, 2017-04-29 at 20:57 -0400, Alex wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm having a problem with bounce messages being tagged as spam. What >> is the proper way to handle legitimate bounce messages these days? Is >> it safe

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

Hi, On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:17 AM, David Jones wrote: >>From: Alex > >>I'm having a problem with bounce messages being tagged as spam. What >>is the proper way to handle legitimate bounce messages these days? Is >>it safe to bypass scanning DSN bounce

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

>From: Alex >I'm having a problem with bounce messages being tagged as spam. What >is the proper way to handle legitimate bounce messages these days? Is >it safe to bypass scanning DSN bounce messages and route them directly >with postfix? Sender reputation is key to

Re: ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

On Sat, 2017-04-29 at 20:57 -0400, Alex wrote: > Hi, >  > I'm having a problem with bounce messages being tagged as spam. What > is the proper way to handle legitimate bounce messages these days? Is > it safe to bypass scanning DSN bounce messages and route them > directly > with postfix? >  >

ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE questions

Hi, I'm having a problem with bounce messages being tagged as spam. What is the proper way to handle legitimate bounce messages these days? Is it safe to bypass scanning DSN bounce messages and route them directly with postfix? I've created some rules over the years which attempt to identify