Re: sender-valid SMTP callbacks (Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?)

2005-12-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Matt Kettler wrote on Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:16:43 -0500: > So I don't think this really changes much about spam, aside from perhaps > encouraging spammers to clean their lists. Do they "clean" their lists? It seems to a certain point, yes. Although it just seems they push all the stuff out and do

Re: Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?

2005-12-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Matt Kettler wrote on Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:04:36 -0500: > It's almost certainly someone who uses milter-sender. milter-sender does this > dummy check before accepting mail. It's taking the "verify MX record of > envelope > sender" one step further and verifying the whole address. But the envelo

Re: Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?

2005-12-21 Thread List Mail User
>... >List Mail User wrote: >> tuxorama.com does a SMTP probe for every posting to this list >> and is one of the very few IPs I have firewalled off. The probes seem >> to always come from 81.169.185.26 (now they'll probably change IPs and I'll >> have to block some other IP or range), so the

RE: sender-valid SMTP callbacks (Re: Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?)

2005-12-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Rick Macdougall wrote: > you do not bounce after accepting Hear, hear! I wish AOL and Yahoo would figure this out. -- Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com 805.964.4554 x902 Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com Software Engineer

Re: sender-valid SMTP callbacks (Re: Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?)

2005-12-21 Thread Rick Macdougall
Matt Kettler wrote: Realistically, most spam I get seems to be using addresses that are already in the spammer's database of "valid" email addresses. While I see a lot of viruses using dictionary based MAIL FROM addresses, I see very little spam doing this. So I don't think this really changes m

Re: sender-valid SMTP callbacks (Re: Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?)

2005-12-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Justin Mason wrote: > > Hey Matt -- > > fwiw, I find them pretty inoffensive in and of themselves; however, from a > game-theory point of view, their effects are lousy. > > This, and other methods that attempt to fight spam by validating an email > address' validity, don't necessarily try to va

sender-valid SMTP callbacks (Re: Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?)

2005-12-21 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Kettler writes: > List Mail User wrote: > > tuxorama.com does a SMTP probe for every posting to this list > > and is one of the very few IPs I have firewalled off. The probes seem > > to always come from 81.169.185.26 (now they'll probably c

Re: Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?

2005-12-21 Thread Matt Kettler
List Mail User wrote: > tuxorama.com does a SMTP probe for every posting to this list > and is one of the very few IPs I have firewalled off. The probes seem > to always come from 81.169.185.26 (now they'll probably change IPs and I'll > have to block some other IP or range), so they, while

RE: Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?

2005-12-21 Thread Aaron Boyles
ot;tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone? tuxorama.com does a SMTP probe for every posting to this list and is one of the very few IPs I have firewalled off. The probes seem to always come from 81.169.185.26 (now they'll probably change IPs and I'll have to block some othe

Re: Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?

2005-12-21 Thread List Mail User
tuxorama.com does a SMTP probe for every posting to this list and is one of the very few IPs I have firewalled off. The probes seem to always come from 81.169.185.26 (now they'll probably change IPs and I'll have to block some other IP or range), so they, while irritating are very easy to

Does "tuxorama.com" sound familiar to anyone?

2005-12-21 Thread Aaron Boyles
This could just be sheer coincidence, but like I said, we don't get a whole lot of E-Mail here, so it'd be an odd coincidence. Almost immediately after my first posting on this board, someone has started "testing" our SMTP server, with an IP registered in Amsterdam, NL. Here's our current log t