Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-16 Thread Kris Deugau
Josie Walls wrote: Would this group agree that requiring 5 hits in order to classify an email as spam is too conservative a number? Nope. I've been running a number of systems - personal and professional - at 5 with no major runs of missed-spam or mistagged-ham (aside from the period where

Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-14 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Josie Walls wrote: Would this group agree that requiring 5 hits in order to classify an email as spam is too conservative a number? I wouldn't. We reject everything with a score of 18 or higher, quarantine everything with 9 or higher (I read the quarantine reports every work day), and let

thresholds and accuracy (Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods))

2008-04-14 Thread Justin Mason
Jonas Eckerman writes: Josie Walls wrote: Would this group agree that requiring 5 hits in order to classify an email as spam is too conservative a number? I wouldn't. We reject everything with a score of 18 or higher, quarantine everything with 9 or higher (I read the quarantine

Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-14 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Jonas Eckerman wrote: We reject everything with a score of 18 or higher, quarantine everything with 9 or higher That should have been reject *and* quarantine everything with 9 or higher /J -- Jonas Eckerman, FSDB Fruktträdet http://whatever.frukt.org/ http://www.fsdb.org/

Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Jonas Eckerman wrote: We reject everything with a score of 18 or higher, quarantine everything with 9 or higher On 14.04.08 15:09, Jonas Eckerman wrote: That should have been reject *and* quarantine everything with 9 or higher I thought you can reject *or* quarantine, the combintaion

Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-14 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I thought you can reject *or* quarantine, Wether that or is exclusive or not depends on the tools you use. With MIMEDefang (wich we use) it isn't. Since SpamAssassin has to be called after the complete message has been received, there is no technical reason

FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-11 Thread Josie Walls
Hello, Would this group agree that requiring 5 hits in order to classify an email as spam is too conservative a number? I suspect ISPs have their filter settings at 3 or less. Any insight would be appreciated. Kind Regards, Josie Josie Walls Senior Email Deliverability Manager WhatCounts,

Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-11 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Friday 11 April 2008 19:53:30 Josie Walls wrote: Hello, Would this group agree that requiring 5 hits in order to classify an email as spam is too conservative a number? i disagree. Rather then setting the score lower, you should set specific test higher that do match the spam specific to

Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-11 Thread Rick Macdougall
Josie Walls wrote: Hello, Would this group agree that requiring 5 hits in order to classify an email as spam is too conservative a number? I suspect ISPs have their filter settings at 3 or less. Any insight would be appreciated. I'm an ISP and we use 5 to mark and 10 to reject at smtp time

Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-11 Thread D Hill
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 at 14:10 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Josie Walls wrote: Hello, Would this group agree that requiring 5 hits in order to classify an email as spam is too conservative a number? I suspect ISPs have their filter settings at 3 or less. Any insight would be

Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-11 Thread Kelson
Rick Macdougall wrote: I'm an ISP and we use 5 to mark and 10 to reject at smtp time (not bounce, smtp reject 551). Same here. Dropping below 5 would cause way too many false positives. -- Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications www.speed.net

Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-11 Thread Igor Chudov
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:10:41PM -0400, Rick Macdougall wrote: Josie Walls wrote: Hello, Would this group agree that requiring 5 hits in order to classify an email as spam is too conservative a number? I suspect ISPs have their filter settings at 3 or less. Any insight would be

Re: FW: Why is this spam passing my SA (counterfeit goods)

2008-04-11 Thread SM
At 12:33 11-04-2008, Igor Chudov wrote: Hey, this is interesting. I really don't care to process anythng with score above 10. How can I block it on the sendmail level? I have sendmail. Install a milter which interacts with spamd. You can then reject spam at the SMTP level. Regards, -sm