Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-10 Thread LuKreme
On 6-Aug-2009, at 11:28, Terry Carmen wrote: It actually works very well with very small and very large distances. I suppose it COULD. Anything that I receive from an IP address located with maybe 50 miles of my location is almost 100% guaranteed Ham. However, I've never received even a

Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Kenneth Porter
A recent thread on spam detection suggested that geographical distance from sender to recipient correlates with spam, and that spammers tend to cluster geographically. Are there any plugins that can calculate these distances? I suppose the output would be two rules (or two sets of rules

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Ned Slider
Kenneth Porter wrote: A recent thread on spam detection suggested that geographical distance from sender to recipient correlates with spam, I'm really not sure how given that the majority of spam appears to originate from the USA: http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/countries.lasso

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Terry Carmen
Kenneth Porter wrote: A recent thread on spam detection suggested that geographical distance from sender to recipient correlates with spam, I'm really not sure how given that the majority of spam appears to originate from the USA: http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/countries.lasso

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Scheidell
Terry Carmen wrote: What would seem to be really useful is if spamassassin kept the geographic coordinates for all sender IPs and created hammy and spammy area mappings and used distance from these as a weighting factor. enable the ASN plugin.. it will create bayes tokens. then train

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread RW
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:28:06 -0400 Terry Carmen te...@cnysupport.com wrote: Kenneth Porter wrote: Personally, I think you'd have just about as much success scoring 1 additional point to any email originating from the US. It actually works very well with very small and very large

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Terry Carmen
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 13:28:06 -0400 Terry Carmen te...@cnysupport.com wrote: Kenneth Porter wrote: Personally, I think you'd have just about as much success scoring 1 additional point to any email originating from the US. It actually works very well with very small and very large

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Mark Martinec
Terry Carmen wrote: Actually, I was looking at it from the other (ham) direction. Say I live in Rochester, NY. Chances are pretty good that mail I receive from IP addresses in or near Rochester would be ham (friends/business/etc.) Email becomes more hammy as it's origination point gets

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 13:28 -0400, Terry Carmen wrote: Anything that I receive from an IP address located with maybe 50 miles of my location is almost 100% guaranteed Ham. However, I've never received even a single email from China that wasn't spam. I did. Same for almost any country you can

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Terry Carmen
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 13:28 -0400, Terry Carmen wrote: Anything that I receive from an IP address located with maybe 50 miles of my location is almost 100% guaranteed Ham. However, I've never received even a single email from China that wasn't spam. . . . Sorry. But yes, I've got personal

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 21:42 -0400, Terry Carmen wrote: Sorry. But yes, I've got personal responses from pretty much *all* over the world. As a geek, I receive mail from all over the world. However as a business owner, my statement holds true. My clients are clustered near me. From your

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Terry Carmen
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 21:42 -0400, Terry Carmen wrote: Sorry. But yes, I've got personal responses from pretty much *all* over the world. As a geek, I receive mail from all over the world. However as a business owner, my statement holds true. My clients are clustered near me. From your

Re: Geographical distance

2009-08-06 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
From your mail's Received headers, first hop, using a random service I quickly googled. Your DSL (dial-up?) IP is reported to be in Cleveland, Ohio. Your SMTP is in Dallas, Texas. Which one is near you? If you tried something with more accuracy like MaxMind.com, you would see Syracuse,