Re: Misguided energy (was Re: Do we need a new SMTP protocol? (OT))

2010-12-07 Thread jdow
Sorry bubbie, send me a challenge and you go into the evil list, which tends to be a permanent /dev/null redirect. This is iron clad on a mailing list. Direct I may or may not consign. C/R is plain evil as I have encountered it in the past. On mailing lists it's beyond evil as it generates

Re: Misguided energy (was Re: Do we need a new SMTP protocol? (OT))

2010-12-04 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mit, 2010-12-01 at 16:17 -0500, David F. Skoll wrote: On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:02:03 -0500 Michael Grant mgr...@grant.org wrote: The main problem with this approach is how does someone send you mail if they're not on your contact list? I don't have any magic answers how to solve that

Re: Misguided energy (was Re: Do we need a new SMTP protocol? (OT))

2010-12-04 Thread RW
On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:44:37 +0100 Bernd Petrovitsch be...@petrovitsch.priv.at wrote: C/R is only means to make it move your own effort over to others. The really interesting case is if both sides choose to require C/R to get the first mail delivered. Which should be a clear sign to

Re: Misguided energy (was Re: Do we need a new SMTP protocol? (OT))

2010-12-04 Thread RW
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:08:36 + RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:44:37 +0100 Bernd Petrovitsch be...@petrovitsch.priv.at wrote: C/R is only means to make it move your own effort over to others. The really interesting case is if both sides choose to

Misguided energy (was Re: Do we need a new SMTP protocol? (OT))

2010-12-01 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:02:03 -0500 Michael Grant mgr...@grant.org wrote: The main problem with this approach is how does someone send you mail if they're not on your contact list? I don't have any magic answers how to solve that beyond what's already out there as in return messages with