Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-02 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 09:33 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > On Wed, July 1, 2009 08:50, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > > I'm going to need to disable some of these lists as the MTA has already > > > > blocked stuff on them Kind of pointless making repeat lookups for stuff > > > > al

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-02 Thread Steve Freegard
Kasper Sacharias Eenberg wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 08:20 +0100, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: >> On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 08:28 +0200, Kasper Sacharias Eenberg wrote: >>> On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 05:32 +0100, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 16:13 -0600, LuKreme wrote: >

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-02 Thread Kasper Sacharias Eenberg
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 08:20 +0100, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 08:28 +0200, Kasper Sacharias Eenberg wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 05:32 +0100, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 16:13 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > > > > On 1-Jul-2009, at 06:47, rich...

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > > > On 1-Jul-2009, at 06:47, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But for the paranoid will changing 50_scores.cf from; > > > > > > > > > > score RCVD_IN_SORBS_BLOCK 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3 > > > > > score RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 0 1.615 0 0.877 # n=0 n=2 > > > > > score RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP 0 0.0

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-02 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > On Wed, July 1, 2009 08:50, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > I'm going to need to disable some of these lists as the MTA has already > > > blocked stuff on them Kind of pointless making repeat lookups for stuff > > > already tested. Thanks for pointing that out Benny. > On Wed, 2009-07-01 a

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-02 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, July 2, 2009 06:32, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > Will it result in a nuclear war? yes, and burn down all googles servers aswell :) -- xpoint

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-02 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 08:28 +0200, Kasper Sacharias Eenberg wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 05:32 +0100, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 16:13 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > > > On 1-Jul-2009, at 06:47, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > > > > > > But for the paranoid will changing

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Kasper Sacharias Eenberg
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 05:32 +0100, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 16:13 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > > On 1-Jul-2009, at 06:47, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > > > > But for the paranoid will changing 50_scores.cf from; > > > > > > score RCVD_IN_SORBS_BLOCK 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3 > >

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 16:13 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > On 1-Jul-2009, at 06:47, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > > But for the paranoid will changing 50_scores.cf from; > > > > score RCVD_IN_SORBS_BLOCK 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3 > > score RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 0 1.615 0 0.877 # n=0 n=2 > > score RCVD_IN_SORBS_HT

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread LuKreme
On 1-Jul-2009, at 06:47, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: But for the paranoid will changing 50_scores.cf from; score RCVD_IN_SORBS_BLOCK 0 # n=1 n=2 n=3 score RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 0 1.615 0 0.877 # n=0 n=2 score RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP 0 0.001 0 0.001 # n=0 n=2 score RCVD_IN_SORBS_MISC 0 0.001 0 0.353 #

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 19:21 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote: > On Wed, July 1, 2009 19:04, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > You may want to fix that backscatter problem you have too :-) > > just stop sending cc to me, then its fixed > My apologies. I figured if I sent it twice you may *READ* it p

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 1, 2009 19:04, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > You may want to fix that backscatter problem you have too :-) just stop sending cc to me, then its fixed -- xpoint

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 18:26 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote: > On Wed, July 1, 2009 08:50, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > I'm going to need to disable some of these lists as the MTA has already > > blocked stuff on them Kind of pointless making repeat lookups for stuff > > already tested. Thanks

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 18:26 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote: > On Wed, July 1, 2009 08:50, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > I'm going to need to disable some of these lists as the MTA has already > > blocked stuff on them Kind of pointless making repeat lookups for stuff > > already tested. Thanks

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 1, 2009 08:50, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > I'm going to need to disable some of these lists as the MTA has already > blocked stuff on them Kind of pointless making repeat lookups for stuff > already tested. Thanks for pointing that out Benny. pleasde do your home work again !, w

Re: [sa] Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 14:21 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > >> Jul 1 07:38:46 munged #14781: query: 1.2.3.4.dnsbl.sorbs.net IN A + > >> Oh, and look: dnsbl.sorbs.net > >> So it seems that the demise of sorbs will add latency if their ser

Re: [sa] Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: >> Jul 1 07:38:46 munged #14781: query: 1.2.3.4.dnsbl.sorbs.net IN A + >> Oh, and look: dnsbl.sorbs.net >> So it seems that the demise of sorbs will add latency if their servers >> stop answering... On 01.07.09 08:08, Charles Gregory wrote: > ..

Re: [sa] Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: Jul 1 07:38:46 munged #14781: query: 1.2.3.4.dnsbl.sorbs.net IN A + Oh, and look: dnsbl.sorbs.net So it seems that the demise of sorbs will add latency if their servers stop answering... ...which leads back to my original question, Will the dev

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 01.07.09 11:26, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > And there is the argument that anything other than the final IP can > easily be forged or inserted into the headers rendering a great many > costly DNS checks. Swings and roundabouts. if a spammer forges Received: line so the checked ip is in blac

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 12:00 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 10:27 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > > > Note that rbl checks do not only control the IP you are receiving mail > > > from, > > > but also an IP others are receiving mail from. That means, rbl c

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Per Jessen
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 11:11 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: >> rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: >> >> > I'm guessing there is some way to modify the network checks to it >> > does not use specific RBL's. I've not studied closely, but I think >> > today I need to become acqua

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 11:11 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: > rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 08:58 +0200, Yet Another Ninja wrote: > >> On 7/1/2009 8:50 AM, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > >> > Oh, and look: dnsbl.sorbs.net > >> > > >> > So it seems that the demise of sorbs

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 10:27 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > Note that rbl checks do not only control the IP you are receiving mail from, > > but also an IP others are receiving mail from. That means, rbl checks can > > help you catch spam others are (unintentionally) forwarding to you

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Per Jessen
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 08:58 +0200, Yet Another Ninja wrote: >> On 7/1/2009 8:50 AM, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: >> > Oh, and look: dnsbl.sorbs.net >> > >> > So it seems that the demise of sorbs will add latency if their >> > servers stop answering... >> >> >>

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Per Jessen
rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 10:27 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >> Note that rbl checks do not only control the IP you are receiving >> mail from, but also an IP others are receiving mail from. That means, >> rbl checks can help you catch spam others are (uninte

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-07-01 08:26:09, schrieb Benny Pedersen: > > On Wed, July 1, 2009 07:44, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > In particular > > # Enable or disable network checks > > skip_rbl_checks 0 > > 0 = off 1 = on > > wroung > > 0 = use rbl > 1 = skib rbl test Both are right... because the n

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 10:27 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > Note that rbl checks do not only control the IP you are receiving mail from, > but also an IP others are receiving mail from. That means, rbl checks can > help you catch spam others are (unintentionally) forwarding to you. > > I

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > On 30.06.09 07:06, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > > Are you saying that ZEN caught it after SA processed it? Why are > > > you not using ZEN in SA or at the SMTP stage? > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:10:36 +0200 > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > She apparently does not have control over 69.43.

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: > > > If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on > > > your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 01:15 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > In Debian, the network related scans are acti

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-07-01 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 08:58 +0200, Yet Another Ninja wrote: > On 7/1/2009 8:50 AM, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > Oh, and look: dnsbl.sorbs.net > > > > So it seems that the demise of sorbs will add latency if their servers > > stop answering... > > > See "Update: 25th June 2009 " > > http:

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 7/1/2009 8:50 AM, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > Oh, and look: dnsbl.sorbs.net So it seems that the demise of sorbs will add latency if their servers stop answering... See "Update: 25th June 2009 " http://www.au.sorbs.net/

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 08:26 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote: > On Wed, July 1, 2009 07:44, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > In particular > > # Enable or disable network checks > > skip_rbl_checks 0 > > 0 = off 1 = on > > wroung > > 0 = use rbl > 1 = skib rbl test > Indeed I was "WROUNG";

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 1, 2009 07:44, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > In particular > # Enable or disable network checks > skip_rbl_checks 0 > 0 = off 1 = on wroung 0 = use rbl 1 = skib rbl test -- xpoint

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 01:15 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: > > If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on > > your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? > > In Debian, the network related scans are activated an

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread RW
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 01:15:56 +0200 Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: > > If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not > > work on your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? > > In Debian, the network related scans are activated and

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? In Debian, the network related scans are activated and I do not know, why ZE

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: > If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on > your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? In Debian, the network related scans are activated and I do not know, why ZEN is never executed. If you know more abo

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2009-06-30 07:06:37, schrieb rich...@buzzhost.co.uk: Are you saying that ZEN caught it after SA processed it? Why are you not using ZEN in SA or at the SMTP stage? Because it does not work... My Mailserver does tonns (the syslog of my DNS server

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 07:06:37, schrieb rich...@buzzhost.co.uk: > Are you saying that ZEN caught it after SA processed it? Why are you > not > using ZEN in SA or at the SMTP stage? Because it does not work... My Mailserver does tonns (the syslog of my DNS server is full of it) of DNS checks but ZEN does

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 04:33:57, schrieb Benny Pedersen: > what ip ? [michelle.konz...@michelle1:~] host 224.118.146.174.zen.spamhaus.org 224.118.146.174.zen.spamhaus.org has address 127.0.0.11 Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread RW
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:10:36 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 30.06.09 07:06, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > Are you saying that ZEN caught it after SA processed it? Why are > > you not using ZEN in SA or at the SMTP stage? > > She apparently does not have control over 69.43.203.202,

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 00:46 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > For some seconds I have goten this spam, which has passed my spmassassin > > but was hit by a seperated ZEN rule in procmail: > > > > > > Return-Path: soria.h.steven...@gmail.com > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-29 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 00:46 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > For some seconds I have goten this spam, which has passed my spmassassin > but was hit by a seperated ZEN rule in procmail: > > > Return-Path: soria.h.steven...@gmail.com > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on >

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, June 30, 2009 00:46, Michelle Konzack wrote: > For some seconds I have goten this spam, which has passed my spmassassin > but was hit by a seperated ZEN rule in procmail: what ip ? imho ipv6 is still not stable in any sa versions, and this might be your problem -- xpoint

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-29 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:46:00 +0200 Michelle Konzack wrote: > For some seconds I have goten this spam, which has passed my > spmassassin but was hit by a seperated ZEN rule in procmail: please use a pastebin when pasting things like email headers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin http://pa

New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
For some seconds I have goten this spam, which has passed my spmassassin but was hit by a seperated ZEN rule in procmail: Return-Path: soria.h.steven...@gmail.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on samba3.private.tamay-dogan.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, s