Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-24 Thread RW
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:14:37 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: You snipped out what I was specifically responding to: On 22 Jun 2015, at 21:45 , Michael B Allen wrote: bayes_file_mode 0777 Ok, I misunderstood. I thought you were referring to things being run as root.

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-24 Thread Bill Cole
On 24 Jun 2015, at 16:21, RW wrote: On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:42:09 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: On 22 Jun 2015, at 21:45, Michael B Allen wrote: So with a default install (CentOS 7 in my case and I suspect pretty much all other systems), bayes will NOT just work by default unless you explicitly

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-24 Thread Bill Cole
On 23 Jun 2015, at 14:58, Michael B Allen wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bill Cole sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote: Yes, I want a system-wide bayes db. And I am running spamd and spamc and I assume that is all working (but of course I have no idea if it really is). But

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-24 Thread RW
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:42:09 -0400 Bill Cole wrote: On 22 Jun 2015, at 21:45, Michael B Allen wrote: So with a default install (CentOS 7 in my case and I suspect pretty much all other systems), bayes will NOT just work by default unless you explicitly modify

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-23 Thread Bill Cole
On 23 Jun 2015, at 0:05, Michael B Allen wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Bill Cole sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote: On 22 Jun 2015, at 21:45, Michael B Allen wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: [root@www

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.06.2015 um 18:48 schrieb Bill Cole: * sa-learn IS NOT THE RIGHT TOOL FOR LEARNING MESSAGES INTO A SYSTEM-WIDE DB says who? that below is the rsult of a customized sa-learn script for a ton of users working like a charm on a spamass-milter setup for 10 months now

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-23 Thread Michael B Allen
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Bill Cole sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote: Yes, I want a system-wide bayes db. And I am running spamd and spamc and I assume that is all working (but of course I have no idea if it really is). But I want users to be able to put spams that get

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 22.06.15 19:55, Michael B Allen wrote: How can I tell if SA is tagging using bayes? [root@www .spamassassin]# pwd /var/log/spamassassin/.spamassassin [root@www .spamassassin]# ls -la total 1100 drwx-- 2 spamd spamd4096 Jun 22 19:42 . drwx-- 3 spamd spamd4096 Jun 7 00:41

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-23 Thread RW
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 02:04:03 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: oh and independent of not running as root you have only 301 spam messages while the docs clearly state you need at least 400 ham as well as 400 spam samples It's 200 of each.

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.06.2015 um 06:05 schrieb Michael B Allen: Yes, I want a system-wide bayes db. And I am running spamd and spamc and I assume that is all working (but of course I have no idea if it really is). But I want users to be able to put spams that get through into ~/Maildir/.LearnAsSpam and then,

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.06.2015 um 03:45 schrieb Michael B Allen: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: [root@www .spamassassin]# pwd /var/log/spamassassin/.spamassassin [root@www .spamassassin]# ls -la total 1100 drwx-- 2 spamd spamd4096 Jun 22 19:42 . drwx--

No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-22 Thread Michael B Allen
How can I tell if SA is tagging using bayes? [root@www .spamassassin]# pwd /var/log/spamassassin/.spamassassin [root@www .spamassassin]# ls -la total 1100 drwx-- 2 spamd spamd4096 Jun 22 19:42 . drwx-- 3 spamd spamd4096 Jun 7 00:41 .. -rw--- 1 spamd spamd 45056 Jun 22 19:42

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.06.2015 um 01:55 schrieb Michael B Allen: How can I tell if SA is tagging using bayes? if you see the bayes tags in headers and logs [root@www .spamassassin]# pwd /var/log/spamassassin/.spamassassin [root@www .spamassassin]# ls -la total 1100 drwx-- 2 spamd spamd4096 Jun 22

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-22 Thread Reindl Harald
oh and independent of not running as root you have only 301 spam messages while the docs clearly state you need at least 400 ham as well as 400 spam samples Am 23.06.2015 um 02:01 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 23.06.2015 um 01:55 schrieb Michael B Allen: How can I tell if SA is tagging using

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-22 Thread Bill Cole
On 22 Jun 2015, at 21:45, Michael B Allen wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: [root@www .spamassassin]# pwd /var/log/spamassassin/.spamassassin [root@www .spamassassin]# ls -la total 1100 drwx-- 2 spamd spamd4096 Jun 22 19:42 . drwx--

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-22 Thread Michael B Allen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Michael B Allen iop...@gmail.com wrote: and after running sa-learn again (as root) on ham, my db is now broken: [root@www .spamassassin]# sa-learn --dump magic bayes: bayes db version 0 is not able to be used, aborting! at

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-22 Thread Michael B Allen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Bill Cole sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote: On 22 Jun 2015, at 21:45, Michael B Allen wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: [root@www .spamassassin]# pwd /var/log/spamassassin/.spamassassin

Re: No BAYES_XX tags in X-Spam-Report

2015-06-22 Thread Michael B Allen
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: [root@www .spamassassin]# pwd /var/log/spamassassin/.spamassassin [root@www .spamassassin]# ls -la total 1100 drwx-- 2 spamd spamd4096 Jun 22 19:42 . drwx-- 3 spamd spamd4096 Jun 7 00:41 ..