Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-16 Thread Kelson
LuKreme wrote: I don't remember what ?all means though, or how it differs from -all or ~all. ? means the record makes no claims about that source. ?all basically says, "Mail might come from other places, or it might not, we aren't sure." (In RFC terms, mail from us MAY be sent from other pl

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-14 Thread LuKreme
On 13-Mar-2009, at 11:31, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:17:29 +0100: There is no ~all in his spf record. I was assuming that a missing "all" might trigger this NEUTRAL (I haven't seen a single example without it yet). That's wrong, it seems. IIRC

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 13.03.09 14:31, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > No. I assume you get that neutral because of ~all. And you get that ~all > because it is the default in case it's missing. -all is *very* different > from that. > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:17:29 +0100: > > There is no ~all in his

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:17:29 +0100: > There is no ~all in his spf record. I was assuming that a missing "all" might trigger this NEUTRAL (I haven't seen a single example without it yet). That's wrong, it seems. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at C

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Rw wrote on Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:59:56 +: > > You get the neutral result if you don't get a match in any of the terms, > > so wont adding ~all or -all on the end, simply turn neutral into > > [soft]fail. On 13.03.09 14:31, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > No. I assume you get that neutral because of ~al

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-13 Thread RW
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:31:17 +0100 Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Rw wrote on Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:59:56 +: > > > You get the neutral result if you don't get a match in any of the > > terms, so wont adding ~all or -all on the end, simply turn neutral > > into [soft]fail. > > No. I assume you get that

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rw wrote on Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:59:56 +: > You get the neutral result if you don't get a match in any of the terms, > so wont adding ~all or -all on the end, simply turn neutral into > [soft]fail. No. I assume you get that neutral because of ~all. And you get that ~all because it is the defa

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-12 Thread RW
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:14:10 +0100 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 12.03.09 00:50, spamassas...@corwyn.net wrote: > > Interesting, but, the domain I'm asking about isn't sinister.net :-) > > > > My current guess is that when the mail processes into amavis, when > > send from local <> local (

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:14:10 +0100: > I think the SPF_NEUTRAL is because you don't have ~all or -all at the end of > your TXT record. As Matus says: add an "-all" at the end to achieve what you want. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Int

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.03.09 00:50, spamassas...@corwyn.net wrote: > Interesting, but, the domain I'm asking about isn't sinister.net :-) > > My current guess is that when the mail processes into amavis, when > send from local <> local (all on the same server) the email comes > from localhost, triggers SA, local

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-11 Thread spamassassin
Interesting, but, the domain I'm asking about isn't sinister.net :-) My current guess is that when the mail processes into amavis, when send from local <> local (all on the same server) the email comes from localhost, triggers SA, localhost isn't in the SPF record, and thus triggers the SPF_N

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-11 Thread LuKreme
On 11-Mar-2009, at 17:20, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 15:16 -0400, spamassas...@corwyn.net wrote: v=spf1 a mx ptr Interesting: I just pointed thre SPF testing tools at http://www.kitterman.com/spf/validate.html at sinister.net. That retrieved: spf1 ip4:75.180.132.0/24 mx incl

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-11 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 15:16 -0400, spamassas...@corwyn.net wrote: > v=spf1 a mx ptr Interesting: I just pointed thre SPF testing tools at http://www.kitterman.com/spf/validate.html at sinister.net. That retrieved: spf1 ip4:75.180.132.0/24 mx include:aspmx.googlemail.com include:mail.zoneedit.com

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-11 Thread LuKreme
On 11-Mar-2009, at 13:16, spamassas...@corwyn.net wrote: example.com text = "v=spf1 a mx ptr" mine looks like: example.com TXT "v=spf1 a mx ptr ~all" have you tried http://old.openspf.org/wizard.html (or similar)? -- There's nothing to do, so you just stay in bed [ah, poor thing

Re: SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-11 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, spamassas...@corwyn.net wrote: since it's from me TO me that implies my spf is wrong. My SPF (aka TXT) record is currently set to (per nslookup): example.com text = "v=spf1 a mx ptr" What's wrong with that? the MX record comes back as the mail server. Where are yo

SPF_NEUTRAL scoring?

2009-03-11 Thread spamassassin
I have user mail being sent from my domain to my domain flagging as spam. that's ok really. It's what's making it flag as spam that's bugging me - SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=4.659 tagged_above=-999 required=4.3 tests=[DYN_RDNS_SHORT_HELO_HTML=0.287, HTML_FONT_SIZE_LARGE=0.001,