HABEAS_ACCREDITED_SOI spam (Was: senderbase rating - how to appeal?)

2008-09-07 Thread SM
At 14:45 05-09-2008, Greg Troxel wrote: I don't know that spamassassin pays attention to senderbase; if not this probablly won't work. I say this, mostly joking, from my experience with habeas. I have gotten spam on multiple occasions from senders that are HABEAS_ACCREDITED_SOI, and complained

Re: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-07 Thread Michael Scheidell
RobertH wrote: Michael, May we ask and know what you are setting those scores to please? -rh http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg25017.html (note, even after complaints above, habeas still claims 'secure referrals': proof I think that SA should lower these scores A LOT.

RE: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-06 Thread RobertH
> > Considering that only spammers (er... 'email marketing companies') pay for > habeas, we have set a POSITIVE score for habeas accredited spam. We track > any FP right up front, track any rule in a fp (releases from amavisd-new > managed quarantine), we use sa-learn.pl on shared imap folders,

Re: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-06 Thread Michael Scheidell
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Greg Troxel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After seeing similar spam from "accredited" senders, we disabled any > score from the habeas rules long ago and have yet to notice any > increase in FP (we have ~5000 fairly sensitive users who definitely > let us know w

Re: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-05 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Greg Troxel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Does anyone know how you can appeal or query a senderbase rating? > > I resisted answering at first, because I'm perhaps a bit too cynical: > > The way to appe

Re: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-05 Thread Greg Troxel
"Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know how you can appeal or query a senderbase rating? I resisted answering at first, because I'm perhaps a bit too cynical: The way to appeal is to file a bug with spamassassin saying that senderbase is bogus and ask t

Re: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-05 Thread SM
Hi Michele, At 03:27 05-09-2008, Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote: Our main issue wasn't with the listing but with the total lack of appeals procedure or delisting, as several large corporates seem to trust Senderbase and block based on its score The "industry's most accurate reputation syste

Re: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-05 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
Joseph Thanks :) Our main issue wasn't with the listing but with the total lack of appeals procedure or delisting, as several large corporates seem to trust Senderbase and block based on its score Thanks again Michele Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Brand

Re: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-05 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
On 4 Sep 2008, at 15:49, Michael Scheidell wrote: Does anyone know how you can appeal or query a senderbase rating? I think senderbase is automatic.. You start spamming, you get on the list. You stop spamming, (eventually) you get off the list. You must be new to the 'net', so you get one

RE: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-04 Thread RobertH
> > If the spammer had faked a host that really sends mail, then we would > have had a practical problem to solve. The cheapest solution would > probably be to rename the host and change its IP, and let the spammer > keep faking the old name and IP. > > Maybe a letter from your lawyer to Ironpo

Re: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-04 Thread Joseph Brennan
"Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone know how you can appeal or query a senderbase rating? No. I tried and failed over a period of many months. Last year a spammer was inserting a faked Received header into millions of messages a day, claiming that the spa

Re: senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-04 Thread Michael Scheidell
> Does anyone know how you can appeal or query a senderbase rating? I think senderbase is automatic.. You start spamming, you get on the list. You stop spamming, (eventually) you get off the list. You must be new to the 'net', so you get one free clue: As for querying, did you even try to google

senderbase rating - how to appeal?

2008-09-04 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
Does anyone know how you can appeal or query a senderbase rating? Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection http://www.blacknight.com/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 US: 213-233-1612 UK: 0844 484 9361 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +