Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.06.2016 um 00:27 schrieb Sidney Markowitz: Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 9:31 AM: headers don't help when you have a "spamd: result" log-line with a ton Ah, finally I understand what you are trying to do! You analyze the spamd result log lines, and they currently have two

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 9:31 AM: > > headers don't help when you have a "spamd: result" log-line with a ton Ah, finally I understand what you are trying to do! You analyze the spamd result log lines, and they currently have two deficiencies: 1) They do not distinguish between Bayes

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2016 um 23:26 schrieb Sidney Markowitz: Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 9:08 AM: and it's not worth to discuss since the *real* solution would be a "BAYES_NOTOKS" which would appear *everywhere* and clearly explain why no other BAYES_XX is present I can't argue with that. Without

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 9:08 AM: > > and it's not worth to discuss since the *real* solution would be a > "BAYES_NOTOKS" which would appear *everywhere* and clearly explain why > no other BAYES_XX is present I can't argue with that. Without the ability to make it a rule or a meta-rule

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2016 um 23:00 schrieb Sidney Markowitz: Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 8:37 AM: it is not part of the report itself while tags, scores and descriptions are - a report is something like this: what you showed is defined in the configuration file using "report". Those just happen to

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 8:37 AM: > > it is not part of the report itself while tags, scores and descriptions > are - a report is something like this: what you showed is defined in the configuration file using "report". Those just happen to be the last lines of it in the default

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2016 um 19:06 schrieb Sidney Markowitz: Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 4:44 AM: look above "sadly that works only for mail-headers - but don't appear in the logs" Oh, you mentioned spamc -R before and it does appear in that output. I got that confused with the spamd logs - You're

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 4:44 AM: > look above "sadly that works only for mail-headers - but don't appear in > the logs" > Oh, you mentioned spamc -R before and it does appear in that output. I got that confused with the spamd logs - You're right, I don't see them there. Sidney

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2016 um 18:43 schrieb Sidney Markowitz: Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 2:13 AM: sadly that works only for mail-headers - but don't appear in the logs I just tried adding this to my local configuration, not pretty, just to see what it would do report tag values sender

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 2:13 AM: > sadly that works only for mail-headers - but don't appear in the logs I just tried adding this to my local configuration, not pretty, just to see what it would do report tag values sender _SENDERDOMAIN_ author _AUTHORDOMAIN_ bayesh _BAYESTCHAMMY_

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2016 um 17:03 schrieb Sidney Markowitz: Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 2:13 AM: sadly that works only for mail-headers - but don't appear in the logs nor in a report generated with "/usr/bin/spamc -R" over a webinterface which proceeds uploads of eml-files :-( Yes I see how that

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 2:13 AM: > sadly that works only for mail-headers - but don't appear in the logs > nor in a report generated with "/usr/bin/spamc -R" over a webinterface > which proceeds uploads of eml-files :-( Yes I see how that could be useful. It might work if you define a

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.06.2016 um 15:55 schrieb Sidney Markowitz: Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 1:04 AM: output of "spamassassin -D < ignored_by_bayes_stripped.eml" attached See this line in that output: Jun 11 14:47:00.510 [5188] dbg: bayes: cannot use bayes on this message; not enough usable tokens

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Reindl Harald wrote on 12/06/16 1:04 AM: > output of "spamassassin -D < ignored_by_bayes_stripped.eml" attached See this line in that output: Jun 11 14:47:00.510 [5188] dbg: bayes: cannot use bayes on this message; not enough usable tokens found > i would expect a bayes result in any case

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-11 Thread RW
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 04:52:48 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 10.06.2016 um 23:52 schrieb RW: > > On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:57:45 +0200 > > Reindl Harald wrote: > > > >> see attachemnt, no bayes tag at all looks like a major bug > >> somewhere > > > > In the absence of any debug it's hard to say.

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-10 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 11 Jun 2016, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 10.06.2016 um 23:52 schrieb RW: On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:57:45 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: see attachemnt, no bayes tag at all looks like a major bug somewhere In the absence of any debug it's hard to say. hence i attached the sample It is

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.06.2016 um 23:52 schrieb RW: On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:57:45 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: see attachemnt, no bayes tag at all looks like a major bug somewhere In the absence of any debug it's hard to say. hence i attached the sample It is possible for no tokens to make it through the

Re: why does that mail not get any bayes-classification

2016-06-10 Thread RW
On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:57:45 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > see attachemnt, no bayes tag at all looks like a major bug somewhere In the absence of any debug it's hard to say. It is possible for no tokens to make it through the selection, in which case there is no result. That's more likely than