AuthzSVNAccessFile and [alias]

2012-09-11 Thread Esmond Pitt
The value of an alias in the AuthzSVNAccess file seems constrained to be whatever login name the user used. However I am using LDAP authentication, and it is preferable for me for it to be the full DN of the user rather than whatever he supplied as the login name. I have 'AuthLDAPRemoteUserIsDN

Limiting Subversion noise in apache logs

2012-09-11 Thread kmradke
I've always been slightly annoyed with Apache 401 "unauthorized" log entries when accessing a Subversion repository. I realize these are part of the standard authentication "handshake" via the http protocol. (Always ask anonymously first...) I also realize that mod_dav_svn can now provide a cust

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:33 PM, John Maher wrote: > So you think 100 years from now people will be entering text based > commands? Yes, for as long as people think, speak, write and read text, they will use it to communicate with each other and the machines that assist them. And they will cont

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
So you think 100 years from now people will be entering text based commands? I disagree. And some people still ride horses today for transportation. Doesn't mean I'm gonna get one. But that's OK, because of the people needing horses it gives people who know how to groom horses a job, which is a

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Dave Huang
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 03:10:57PM -0400, John Maher wrote: > Sorry I'm not reading anything on unix if I can help it. With that statement, you've made it obvious that you don't actually understand the capabilities of the CLI. Both CLI and GUI have their uses, and it's definitely not the case that

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:20 PM, John Maher wrote: >>A script is a wrapper around all of your programs and becomes a > superset of all of them. > lololol that has got to be the most unusual definition I have ever > heard of a script. According to your definition, a macro in a word > processer is

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Andy Levy
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:10 PM, John Maher wrote: > Sorry I'm not reading anything on unix if I can help it. Text based > operating systems will be obsolete. I know all you text gurus will > argue to your death. But JCL was junk while it was still in use. It > was used only because that had

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, John Maher wrote: > Text based > operating systems will be obsolete. Errr, what? Have google, amazon, facebook, etc. all changed while I wasn't looking? > But JCL was junk while it was still in use. So what does that have to do with bourne shell or bash or th

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
>A script is a wrapper around all of your programs and becomes a superset of all of them. lololol that has got to be the most unusual definition I have ever heard of a script. According to your definition, a macro in a word processer is a superset of the entire word processer. I disagree. Usi

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Johan Corveleyn
Guys, guys ... take a deep breath and calm down a little bit please. This discussion doesn't seem to be all that useful. You both really have vastly different opinions, I don't think all this arguing is going to change much. And it has become mostly off topic for this mailinglist. -- Johan On Tu

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
lol. These rants are priceless!! I talk about a simple wrapper and we get text stream processing!! Tack on irrelevant things to make your point sound good!! If you gotta reach that far then that is a clue your argument lacks merit. I give up trying to explain it. Sorry I'm not reading anythin

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:57 PM, John Maher wrote: >> > A script is just a subset of a full fledged program. In other words, a > program can do all a script can do and more. That's the part you don't seem to be getting. A script is a wrapper around all of your programs and becomes a superset of

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
> But exactly for those wrappers there is no point in > trying to do *everything* the CLI can do in the GUI as well I disagree. The point is to make the job easier. Having to switch around would prove the point that it is not helping much. I agree to streamline what needs to be done. But I als

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:11 PM, John Maher wrote: >> You're confusing a single application with the whole command line >> and *everything* it can invoke. In your picture that whole set of all >> commands available now or in the future is the 'the application' for >> which you'd need to design a

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Andreas Krey
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:11:08 +, John Maher wrote: ... > I don't understand this statement at all. I'm talking about a simple > wrapper. Ok, I got that wrong. But exactly for those wrappers there is no point in trying to do *everything* the CLI can do in the GUI as well. Streamline the most im

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
> You're confusing a single application with the whole command line > and *everything* it can invoke. In your picture that whole set of all > commands available now or in the future is the 'the application' for > which you'd need to design a GUI, would you want to have its flexibility > available

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, John Maher wrote: > You don't have to like > guis or programmers. But to say they are not useful or detrimental is a > prejudice that can hurt you because it frankly is not a fact. I've never said they weren't useful. I've said that they restrict you to what th

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
> What they don't do is let me build on things that already work in > arbitrary ways (especially in other languages and on other > machines...), and add to that when I have anything else that works. > Maybe they could, but then they would become a programming language > themselves. Actually, they

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Andreas Krey
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:02:51 +, John Maher wrote: ... > line can except take more time to do something. You're confusing the > steps to design an application with the steps to design a wrapper. You're confusing a single application with the whole command line and *everything* it can invoke. I

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:02 AM, John Maher wrote: > So there is NOTHING the gui can't do that the command > line can except take more time to do something. What they don't do is let me build on things that already work in arbitrary ways (especially in other languages and on other machines...),

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
Sorry Les, you just don't get it. Just because you've never seen something doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be done. Its sad that you haven't seen any good tools. You make the same mistake over and over assuming that a wrapper designer anticipates what the user wants to do. While that may be t

Re: Git smudge / Clean / Filter alike in Subversion ?

2012-09-11 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 04:48:12PM +0200, Laurent Alebarde wrote: > Le 11/09/2012 15:49, Stefan Sperling a écrit : > >On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 02:45:49PM +0200, Laurent Alebarde wrote: > >>Thanks for your answer Stefan, > >> > >>Unfortunatly, no : > >> > >>The first link says Subversion is smart wit

Re: Git smudge / Clean / Filter alike in Subversion ?

2012-09-11 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Sep 11, 2012, at 09:48, Laurent Alebarde wrote: > Le 11/09/2012 15:49, Stefan Sperling a écrit : >> >> What do you really need this feature for? I'm interested in learning >> more about your actual use case, the actual problem you're trying to >> solve, rather than what git's solution to your

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:22 AM, John Maher wrote: > Interesting discussion. It appears you have not had the chance to work > with a good wrapper, or maybe you shun guis or something because there > appears to be a strong bias to your statements. First, let me remind you that you started the dis

Re: Git smudge / Clean / Filter alike in Subversion ?

2012-09-11 Thread Laurent Alebarde
Le 11/09/2012 15:49, Stefan Sperling a écrit : On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 02:45:49PM +0200, Laurent Alebarde wrote: Thanks for your answer Stefan, Unfortunatly, no : The first link says Subversion is smart with binary files. That's good to hear, but do not provide a filter or filter hook between

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
Thanks Bob. Exactly what I was looking for. John -Original Message- From: Bob Archer [mailto:bob.arc...@amsi.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:48 AM To: John Maher; Thorsten Schöning; users@subversion.apache.org Subject: RE: general questions > > If you think it would require 44

Re: Git smudge / Clean / Filter alike in Subversion ?

2012-09-11 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 02:45:49PM +0200, Laurent Alebarde wrote: > Thanks for your answer Stefan, > > Unfortunatly, no : > > The first link says Subversion is smart with binary files. That's > good to hear, but do not provide a filter or filter hook between the > workspace and the repository. A

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Bob Archer
> > If you think it would require 44 click paths then that is indeed a poor > > design. > > > > Do you really have 44 repositories? Or 44 projects in a single repository? > > > 1 click to select the repository, 1 click to select all. I just > > turned 44 click paths into 2 clicks. Sounds like

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Mark Phippard
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:38 AM, John Maher wrote: > Thanks Mark!!! That might be exactly what I was looking for. Now I > have an unusual question I don’t know if anyone knows the answer. I may > just try it anyway. What happens if I have more ignores than I need. Will > it hurt performance

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
Thanks Mark!!! That might be exactly what I was looking for. Now I have an unusual question I don't know if anyone knows the answer. I may just try it anyway. What happens if I have more ignores than I need. Will it hurt performance much? For example, my setup looks like this: Reporito

Re: Question's about install subversion server in a NAS (network attached storage).

2012-09-11 Thread Andy Levy
Your repository should not be placed on a network share to be accessed via CIFS/SMB/what have you. Whether you can install an SVN server on your NAS depends upon the NAS. Some vendors offer "packages" which you can install on their devices to provide this sort of functionality. Check with your NAS

Fwd: Question's about install subversion server in a NAS (network attached storage).

2012-09-11 Thread e-friend_partner
Hi all !! Any idea or colaboration about this ? Regards. -- Forwarded message -- From: e-friend_partner Date: 2012/9/3 Subject: Question's about install subversion server in a NAS (network attached storage). To: users-i...@subversion.apache.org Hi comunity !! I'm looking fo

Re: Git smudge / Clean / Filter alike in Subversion ?

2012-09-11 Thread Laurent Alebarde
Thanks for your answer Stefan, Unfortunatly, no : The first link says Subversion is smart with binary files. That's good to hear, but do not provide a filter or filter hook between the workspace and the repository. The second link says it can use external diff. But that's not what I want to

Re: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread Mark Phippard
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:32 AM, John Maher wrote: > On our server we have 21 repositories. One of those repositories contains > 44 projects (dlls). Each project needs the svn:ignore property set. > > You're right, it is not common. But several times I had to leave tortoise > to go to the comm

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
On our server we have 21 repositories. One of those repositories contains 44 projects (dlls). Each project needs the svn:ignore property set. You're right, it is not common. But several times I had to leave tortoise to go to the command line. It's just one more pain. I feel there is a bette

RE: svnadmin

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
Thank you Ryan. I couldn't find where I read that before and you and others explained it well. John -Original Message- From: Ryan Schmidt [mailto:subversion-20...@ryandesign.com] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:38 PM To: John Maher Cc: Subversion Users Subject: Re: svnadmin Returnin

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
Interesting discussion. It appears you have not had the chance to work with a good wrapper, or maybe you shun guis or something because there appears to be a strong bias to your statements. I have been a programmer AND user on both sides, gui and command line, so I am not making things up. > I'

RE: general questions

2012-09-11 Thread John Maher
Tortoise is pretty cool, the best out of what I tried, and I haven't tried much. But there are some things it can not do. John From: David Chapman [mailto:dcchap...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:17 PM To: John Maher Cc: Mark Phippard; users@

bug

2012-09-11 Thread Igor Maliavko
"Error: database is locked, executing statement 'COMMIT TRANSACTION;'" . One hundred times per day. It's very big headache. Error occures while getting updates from repo. After error I'll getting this error while try to clean up my locked local copy. A lot of tryings