Re: T5: What is NOT beautiful about Tapestry?

2009-05-01 Thread Otho
alex, sorry you are right. I was blown away on points 2 4. 2009/5/1 kranga kra...@k2d2.org For Tap 3, we had a very elaborate form with loop implementation and we added Ajax-validation such that you only write validation code once in Java and for javascript validation, an ajax call is made

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Otho
I would suggest splitting the documentation. There should be the reference documentation by the creators/commiters of the project, whis is organized like a book covering all the different aspects of tapestry 5 in a reference manner eg like spring or hibernate docs. These are tied to the release

Re: T5: What is NOT beautiful about Tapestry?

2009-05-01 Thread Inge Solvoll
To possibly bring the discussion to a higher level: Why is T5 so far from being the DE FACTO STANDARD web framework? Is getting web developers to use T5 comparable to encouraging 80-year-olds to throw away their radio and use MP3 instead? The two actually seem related: - There's a learning

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread manuel aldana
Otho schrieb: And lastly I would suggest setting up a forum. Information is more easily organized there and searching is more convenient than wíth a mailing list alone. I would think that the barrier of contributing to a forum is lower than that of contributing to / asking on a mailinglist.

[bean-edit-form] Render + binding list elements

2009-05-01 Thread manuel aldana
Hi, how do I handle List properties of my model when using the bean-edit-form? I had a look at http://www.nabble.com/Dynamic-list-of-strings-in-a-form-td16702754.html but it did not mention bean-edit-form. It would be great if there was something like: If the backing object contains a typed

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Ben Gidley
I must also say I prefer mailing lists - it is easier to follow it. If you want a forum why not use the nabble or markmail interfaces to the mailing lists? e.g. http://tapestry.markmail.org/ or http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry---User-f340.html Ben Gidley www.gidley.co.uk b...@gidley.co.uk On

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Andy Pahne
except when they are down, just like the hibernate forums recently. I always preferred mailing lists... just my 2 cents manuel aldana schrieb: Otho schrieb: And lastly I would suggest setting up a forum. Information is more easily organized there and searching is more convenient than wíth

[integration-test apps] problems with starting them standalone

2009-05-01 Thread manuel aldana
I am trying hard to deploy the integration test webapp from tapestry-core, but I haven't had succeeded so far. Loading webapp itself works (I see the ioc outputs on console). But when going to the context path I would only see a directory listing of the files of the exploded webapp. So it

Re: t5: appending a query string to a page name?

2009-05-01 Thread Harald Geritzer
you could inject the mysearchresults page: @Inject private MySearchResults mySearchResults; Object onSuccessFromMySearchForm() { mySearchResults.setPropertyXXX('12345'); return mySearchResults; } Angelo Chen schrieb: Hi, following code redirects to a results page under

Re: t5: appending a query string to a page name?

2009-05-01 Thread Geoffrey Wiseman
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Angelo Chen angelochen...@yahoo.com.hkwrote: Hi, following code redirects to a results page under mysearch: Object onSuccessFromMySearchForm() { return mysearch/results; } now I need to append a query string after the page name: return

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Geoffrey Wiseman
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Howard Lewis Ship hls...@gmail.com wrote: It might be possible for a wiki to operate in the same way ... we could have a Tapestry 5.1 space and, at the start of 5.2, we could copy it to form the Tapestry 5.2 space. In this way, the documentation for prior

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Joel Halbert
The primary concern, at the moment, seems to be encouraging people to contribute documentation, tutorials and examples. Making the adding, updating and extension of docs as open (so anyone can do it) and simple (so it is not an arduous task) is the key to this. Howard's suggestion of using the

Re: T5: What is NOT beautiful about Tapestry?

2009-05-01 Thread Tony Giaccone
Let me second this point. I know Howard used his experience with WebObjects as the starting point for Tapestry. I wish that starting point included the kind of loop rendering that WebObjects provides. It's clear, simple, straight forward. I imagine it wasn't used because it requires that an

Re: Forum software with good Tapestry integration

2009-05-01 Thread richp123
TapestryBob wrote: I would like to integrate a fully featured forum (administrators, preview messages, avatars etc) into my tapestry web app. The site has an existing registered user base so the forum software should provide single sign on (i.e. once logged in to the main site you dont

Re: T5: What is NOT beautiful about Tapestry?

2009-05-01 Thread Tony Giaccone
I'll give my opinion on this, and I think I can speak with some authority as I used to work in WebObjects which at the time was by far head and shoulders above the rest of the pack of web development frameworks. In fact I would say that WebObject still in many ways leads the pack of Frameworks and

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Alex Kotchnev
-1 on the forum. nabble, markmail and others do an excellent job at providing a forum interface to a mailing list. The community is small enough and there is no need to split the attention w/ a forum that wouldn't bring anything new to the table. - original message - Subject:Re:

Re: T5: What is NOT beautiful about Tapestry?

2009-05-01 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Tony Giaccone tgiacc...@gmail.com wrote: I'll give my opinion on this, and I think I can speak with some authority as I used to work in WebObjects which at the time was by far head and shoulders above the rest of the pack of web development frameworks. In fact I

Re: T5: dynamic form fields - again

2009-05-01 Thread ryanskow
Just curious if any additional screencasts, tutorials, etc have been published on this subject. The screencast posted in 2008 mentioned that there would be more to follow regarding Ajax and dynamic forms (very dynamic form support to be exact):

Re: T5 Override/Replace DefaultHibernateConfigurer

2009-05-01 Thread Kalle Korhonen
This is an old thread, but still relevant to T5.1. I think Daniel is completely right; the DefaultHibernateConfigurer always calls Configuration.configure() which always sends Hibernate looking for hibernate.cfg.xml. I know it's not too difficult to create your own implementation of

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Otho
2009/5/1 Alex Kotchnev akoch...@gmail.com -1 on the forum. nabble, markmail and others do an excellent job at providing a forum interface to a mailing list. I would really contend the excellent. It is crude and not really useably imo. The main point for a forum would be exactly your second

[T5] How to listen/trigger event in componentA from component B ?

2009-05-01 Thread CG
Hi all, I have been using T5 in my project for 1 year , and thanks for the great framework. I am neither an expert in Tapestry nor Java, therefore, would like to seek some help from all of you to assist on my problem . By checking the Grid source code , I know that TriggerEvent can used to

Re: T5: What is NOT beautiful about Tapestry?

2009-05-01 Thread Ulrich Stärk
Nobody likes to do documentation. That's a problem in a volunteer effort. If Tapestry's committers reported to me, I'd be parceling out the kind of documentation you're talking about. That's not how it works. Why don't you create JIRA issues for those documenation tasks? This would show that

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread manuel aldana
yes, I know nabble, and I think it is great. I also think usenet is generally great, but at some point of support it does not scale. At mailinglists you don't have topic categories + sticky notes which I think are quite important for navigation. Further more it lacks and a notification system

Re: Solving the T5 Documentation Dilemma

2009-05-01 Thread Ulrich Stärk
As I understand, CLAs only have to be signed by documentation contributors if the exported wiki documentation is bundled with the release. If its purely online, I don't think that this is necessary. On the other hand, CLAs also give the users an assurance that the generated content will be

Re: T5: What is NOT beautiful about Tapestry?

2009-05-01 Thread Markus Joschko
The documentation point is often raised and of course it is never enough documentation and a book like writing that guides carefully through tapestry would be really great. However I think that the available documentation is still very, very good. Most of the things I need to know I find in the

Re: t5: appending a query string to a page name?

2009-05-01 Thread Angelo Chen
Hi, MySearchResuls can be directly called by: http://localhost:8080/mysearchresults?type=1group=2 thus need to find a way to activate those page in another class with query string approach. Harald Geritzer-2 wrote: you could inject the mysearchresults page: @Inject private

Re: t5: appending a query string to a page name?

2009-05-01 Thread ஸ்ரீராம் கீர்த்தி
Angelo, you can make it like this... Object onSuccessFromMySearchForm() { return mysearch/results/12345; // note the '/' 12345 is not a part of the query string but part of the url path itself } and in Results.java use onActivation method ... something like ... @Property private String