Re: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-22 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peng, Peng Tuck Kwok wrote: > There's a lot of good suggestions here, maybe you could also justify > maintaining a separate instance for the American customers. That would at > least allow at a minimum to roll out changes specific for them, conform to

Re: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-18 Thread Peng Tuck Kwok
There's a lot of good suggestions here, maybe you could also justify maintaining a separate instance for the American customers. That would at least allow at a minimum to roll out changes specific for them, conform to their maintenance time :P. Yes I do realize it would be a replication of code in

Re: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-18 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan, Alan Chaney wrote: > As far as the database side of it goes it seems to me that much of it is > a question of making the 'live-update' a design requirement for any > upgrades. You have to make it possible for the changes to the database > to 'co

RE: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Gainty
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Re: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-17 Thread John5342
>I think it will be useful when we get to the point of redesigning the app >from scratch. It's a bit tough to replace the data access layer of a large >complex app that's been around for a long time though. It is indeed difficult to change a long standing app but in the long run its a better appr

Re: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-17 Thread Bill Davidson
John5342 wrote: I get around my the same kinds of problems by keeping all the layers of the web app seperate so that i can swap them out one at a time and create a near seemless upgrade. The layers in my web apps are: 1 The web interface. 2. The application logic. (this may itself be several lay

RE: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-17 Thread Paul McGurn
u have any dependency in the application on how the ID if formatted. If that's your only concern, you're doing good so far! Paul McGurn -Original Message- From: Bill Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:45 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Serve

Re: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-17 Thread Bill Davidson
Paul McGurn wrote: Segregate, geographically, your customer base's target infrastructure. The way they do this is by tying their customers to a specific "cluster" of their cloud, and then everything that customer does in the application is tied back to that "cluster". The layer of redundancy

Re: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-17 Thread John5342
I get around my the same kinds of problems by keeping all the layers of the web app seperate so that i can swap them out one at a time and create a near seemless upgrade. The layers in my web apps are: 1 The web interface. 2. The application logic. (this may itself be several layers in itself if t

RE: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-17 Thread Paul McGurn
I think the ideal approach here (potentially) is segregating your customer base. Here's an idea directly from how Salesforce.com does it. Segregate, geographically, your customer base's target infrastructure. The way they do this is by tying their customers to a specific "cluster" of their cl

Re: Server Maintenance Across Timezones (global)

2008-09-17 Thread Alan Chaney
Hi Bill Yes, we have the same problem and I've been working on ways to improve the situation. Unfortunately, I don't think there is an easy or simple solution - a lot will depend upon your application. As far as the database side of it goes it seems to me that much of it is a question of mak