[USMA:13667] Re: OT Re: Re: http://election.independent.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=76500

2001-06-10 Thread Han Maenen
The price increases really are abuses of the introduction of the euro. Prices of stuff bought on railway stations are independent of the season: they are always high. But now they have gone through the roof. Only I do not blame the euro for this but greed and deceit and the fact that the governm

[USMA:13669] Madame Tussauds

2001-06-10 Thread Han Maenen
Sunday evening I was looking at a documentary on Discovery Channel about Madame Tussauds Wax Museum in London. They happen to use the metric system when building the figures. When a person is measured live, they use the units that person prefers. In the documentary I saw one person measured in inc

[USMA:13668] Re: USMA 13417 Interseting article from Ireland

2001-06-10 Thread Han Maenen
When I re-read this article about German fighter aces in WW2 I remember that there are ifp goons who claim that the Western Allies won WW2 because of their measurement 'system'. We know what BS that is; the reasons for the German defeat were different and secondly, the metric Soviet Union took a l

[USMA:13666] RE: gigajoules

2001-06-10 Thread CarletonM
In a message dated 2001-06-10 17:32:28 Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you know, the computer stores insist on referring to disk capacity as so many gigs and memory size as so many megs. The unwashed masses end up thinking those are actual units of measure, rather than naked

[USMA:13664] Fw: Research Report Available Now

2001-06-10 Thread kilopascal
2001-06-10 I got this junk e-mail today and I thought some of you might find this interesting. First, it came at the same time as Adrian's report and second, it uses the mish-mosh of FFU , except for one lone metric unit. Can you find it? Funny thing, I don't have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mail ad

[USMA:13665] RE: Italy-news June 04-01

2001-06-10 Thread kilopascal
2001-06-10 Thanks for the response. But, we had a break in the weather and the day time highs have passed 20°C. But, the pool waters are still frigid. Maybe by July. John Keiner ist hoffnungsloser versklavt als derjenige, der irrtümlich glaubt frei zu sein. There are none more hopelessly e

[USMA:13663] Re: Angular measures

2001-06-10 Thread James R. Frysinger
I've read it only once, Pat, and haven't taken much time to think about it, but what you wrote here has a lot of appeal to me. Maybe we can get this to the CCU someday and get them to put it forward. Jim Pat Naughtin wrote: > > Dear Baron, Joe, and All, > > About a year ago, Marcus Berger trie

[USMA:13662] Angular measures

2001-06-10 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear Baron, Joe, and All, About a year ago, Marcus Berger tried to create a thread on this list about angular measures. I recall that his call, at the time, fell on deaf ears. Perhaps now is the time to reconsider his request. >> Baron Carter wrote in USMA 13586 >> All we have to do is get rid

[USMA:13661] RE: Italy-news June 04-01

2001-06-10 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear John, How far South were you thinking? Yesterday we had our highest June overnight temperature ever recorded. It was 17.4 °C, followed by a daytime high of 18.5 °C. As for you request "to send some up here', I am a little flummoxed by the issues of packaging, transportation, and installati

[USMA:13660] RE: Euro (Subject changed)

2001-06-10 Thread Bill Potts
Louis Jourdan wrote: > The official spelling is "euro". Certainly "Euro" is tolerated. In those countries that speak German, "Euro" almost certainly required, given that it's a noun. Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]

[USMA:13659] Re: gigajoules

2001-06-10 Thread Gene Mechtly
Good Work, Adrian! ... On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Adrian Jadic wrote: > ... > Only in SI one can make comparisons between electrical pricing and > natural gas pricing... > > This comparison caught the eye of the top managers generating a corporate > wide review... > > Conclusion? eve

[USMA:13658] Method of Sale Regulations

2001-06-10 Thread Gene Mechtly
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Jim Elwell asked: > ... Do dairy regulations require gallon/quart/pint sizes? ... No. "All fluid milk products, including but not limited to milk, lowfat milk, skim milk, cultured milks, and cream shall be sold in terms of fluid volume." (1995) This quotation if from Page 8

[USMA:13657] RE: Metric shopping expedition

2001-06-10 Thread Jim Elwell
Nat adds some more to the list I posted. On my list I forgot: Seeds 100 mg Iceland Poppy seeds 2 g carrot seeds > Just to add to that, here's a list of things I see > around the house, all SI-first. Obviously I buy > metric-friendly, but it's getting to be a > noticeable list. > >

[USMA:13656] Problem with CCU

2001-06-10 Thread Gene Mechtly
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Ma Be wrote: in reaction to Mechtly's violations of equality- > >The situation would be U = 10 U, U = 100 U, U = 1000 U, etc. all at the > >same time for every SI Unit (each represented by U in the above equations). > >Do you accept these equations as mathematically correct for

[USMA:13655] Re: gigajoules

2001-06-10 Thread James R. Frysinger
Alright!!! Way to go, Adrian! Jim Adrian Jadic wrote: > > Well, it's the end of our financial year which happens to be also at the end of the >heating season. > > Recently, I did the annual utilities report for our site. Of course, it only >contained SI units. > How did I manage to "sell" it

[USMA:13654] RE: gigajoules

2001-06-10 Thread Bill Potts
Adrian Jadic wrote: > I have heard some people referring to it as "gigs" but in any > case I considered it a good start. Don't you just hate that? As you know, the computer stores insist on referring to disk capacity as so many gigs and memory size as so many megs. The unwashed masses end up th

[USMA:13653] Re: OT Re: Re:http://election.independent.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=76500

2001-06-10 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 12:22 -0400 01/06/10, kilopascal wrote: >Is the spelling Euro or euro? My spell checker wants to change euro to >Euro. Or doesn't it make a difference? The official spelling is "euro". Certainly "Euro" is tolerated. Louis

[USMA:13652] RE: Metric shopping expedition

2001-06-10 Thread Nat Hager III
Just to add to that, here's a list of things I see around the house, all SI-first. Obviously I buy metric-friendly, but it's getting to be a noticeable list. Nat 740 ml bottle of Dawn detergent next to the sink 1.27 kg box of Cascade near the dishwasher 2L bottle of Fantastik under the sink 2L a

[USMA:13651] gigajoules

2001-06-10 Thread Adrian Jadic
Well, it's the end of our financial year which happens to be also at the end of the heating season. Recently, I did the annual utilities report for our site. Of course, it only contained SI units. How did I manage to "sell" it to the corporate management? Only in SI one can make comparisons b

[USMA:13649] Metric shopping expedition

2001-06-10 Thread Jim Elwell
I am starting some more metric classes for employees, so I took a trip to a local supermarket to see what I could find. What I found convinces me that you gentlemen are incorrect when you believe that this country will not metricate without mandates. Although it is not happening as fast as any of

[USMA:13650] RE: Market forces

2001-06-10 Thread Jim Elwell
Han Maenen writes: > Let me tell you what those market forces are doing > to small European languages. These are slowly being > crushed to death. and further: > Market forces may well destroy cultural and language > diversity in the near future. . . . This thing > about the market doing > every

[USMA:13648] Re: [Fwd: Error in Fw: Congressman Ehlers deserves help. [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]]

2001-06-10 Thread Bill Potts
John: Here they are again: The addresses and phone numbers for all the House members are at http://www.house.gov/house/Member.htm. For members of the Senate, they can be found at http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index.cfm. I did, in fact, post it on 2001-05-30. Note that these only provide the

[USMA:13647] Re: [Fwd: Error in Fw: Congressman Ehlers deserves help. [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]]

2001-06-10 Thread James R. Frysinger
John, you may note that I stated that as a preference, not as a demand. I'll leave demands to the fanatics. Perhaps some here do indeed appreciate your cross-postings and will speak up, asking you to continue them. In the meantime I will continue, as you suggest, discarding most of them unread. Th

[USMA:13646] Re: [Fwd: Error in Fw: Congressman Ehlers deserves help. [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]]

2001-06-10 Thread kilopascal
2001-06-10 I didn't have an interest in writing anyone a week ago. So, I didn't bookmark it. Plus, with all the cat fighting going on, I just whizzed through most of the postings without reading them. Sorry. I was a bad boy. John - Original Message - From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PRO

[USMA:13645] Re: [Fwd: Error in Fw: Congressman Ehlers deserves help. [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]]

2001-06-10 Thread Bill Potts
Contacting Congressman Ehlers Grand Rapids Office 110 Michigan Street Grand Rapids, MI 49503-2313 voice 616/451-8383 fax 616 454-5630 Washington Office 1714 Longworth House Office Building Washington, DC 20515-2203 voice 202/225-3831 fax 202/225-5144 Found through the magic of SI Navigator (on V

[USMA:13644] Re: [Fwd: Error in Fw: Congressman Ehlers deserves help. [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]]

2001-06-10 Thread kilopascal
2001-06-10 I would love to write to Ehlers in support of his bill. Can you provide both his e-mail address and postal address? I'm sure I can look it up, but I'm too lazy to do it now. Thanks, John - Original Message - From: "eddie lechat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Associ

[USMA:13643] Fw: Fw: Yahoo! Clubs Metric America

2001-06-10 Thread kilopascal
- Original Message - From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 2001-06-10 13:23 Subject: [USMA:13641] Fw: Yahoo! Clubs Metric America > > - Original Message - > From: "Andy Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "kilopa

[USMA:13642] Re: Market forces

2001-06-10 Thread Joseph B. Reid
Martcus wrote in USMA 13627: >Unlike you may think, Jim. I actually have only two general comments to >make here. . >Therefore, please remember that the ultimate goal of all of us is to find >means to make metrication happen

[USMA:13641] Fw: Yahoo! Clubs Metric America

2001-06-10 Thread kilopascal
- Original Message - From: "Andy Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 2001-06-10 13:09 Subject: Re: Yahoo! Clubs Metric America > OK, I admit that the Ehlers bill will not force > McDonalds to go metric as a condition of selling > quarter-poun

[USMA:13640] Re: [Fwd: Error in Fw: Congressman Ehlers deserves help. [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]]

2001-06-10 Thread eddie lechat
Johnson "grossly in error." So, do you support Ehlers or not? Johnson claims that the most important thing on the table this moment is to support Ehlers. --- "James R. Frysinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CORRECTION > > I just noticed that I inadvertently elided a portion > of my quote from

[USMA:13639] Re: OT Re: Re: http://election.independent.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=76500

2001-06-10 Thread Stephen C. Gallagher
> Is the spelling Euro or euro? My spell checker wants to change euro to > Euro. Or doesn't it make a difference? Does the poster's spell checker try to change rupee to Rupee or drachma to Drachma.?

[USMA:13638] Re: Yahoo! Clubs Metric America

2001-06-10 Thread kilopascal
2001-06-10 Andy, This is the response from Jim F. that appeared on the USMA list. Jim is not saying you should not contact your Congressman, but he is saying you should know what the bill is saying before you just blindly jump in and support it. Please read Jim's comments below before you get u

[USMA:13637] Re: [Fwd: Error in Fw: Congressman Ehlers deserves help. [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]]

2001-06-10 Thread kilopascal
2001-06-10 As a means of stimulating conversation and to provide the information posted on those sites to those who are not interested in joining Yahoo or other groups, I post the messages here. If you (or others) don't have an interest in these postings, there is no reason you shouldn't just ig

[USMA:13636] Re: OT Re: Re: http://election.independent.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=76500

2001-06-10 Thread kilopascal
2001-06-10 I was just wondering if all the changes can be made before the old currencies are all gone. Petrol pumps and postage stamps can convert now, the same with cash registers. People paying by cheque or credit card will be billed in Euros and those paying by cash can have it converted at

[USMA:13635] Re: http://election.independent.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=76500

2001-06-10 Thread kilopascal
2001-06-10 Hmmm. If this is true, then will it be possible for Ulster and Scotland and maybe Wales to adopt the Euro independent of England, if the English choose not to adopt the Euro? John - Original Message - From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EM

[USMA:13634] James Watt. Was: Re: Re: No, *you* go first...

2001-06-10 Thread Han Maenen
The fact that James Watt was a supporter of international standardization of units based on the decimal number system is a fact that the BWMA is probably blissfully unaware of. And if you try to explain that to them it will go in one ear and come out the other. To them metric is foreign, therefore

[USMA:13633] Re: http://election.independent.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=76500

2001-06-10 Thread Han Maenen
The situation in Ulster is the same! There the Bank of Ireland as well as the Allied Irish Bank issue their own pound notes! Han - Original Message - From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:03 PM Subject: [

[USMA:13632] [Fwd: Error in Fw: Congressman Ehlers deserves help. [Yahoo! Clubs: Metric America]]

2001-06-10 Thread James R. Frysinger
CORRECTION I just noticed that I inadvertently elided a portion of my quote from the the message that John posted. The full quote is available farther down, but for the sake of clarity, I'll correct my message anyway. Jim Corrected Message John, This cross-posted message fro

[USMA:13631] RE: Market forces

2001-06-10 Thread Bill Potts
Stephen C. Gallagher wrote: > There are reports that dispute that. Sony did offer to license > the Beta format to JVC and Matsushita and they refused > (because they were secretly developing and preparing to > market VHS). JVC felt that VHS's longer recording > time made it a superior product. >

[USMA:13630] RE: Market forces

2001-06-10 Thread Stephen C. Gallagher
- Original Message - From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: June 9, 2001 16:52 Subject: [USMA:13614] RE: Market forces > So far, this thread hasn't indicated the original reason the Beta format > failed (unless I skipped over it in

[USMA:13629] RE: Market forces

2001-06-10 Thread Han Maenen
Jim, Let me tell you what those market forces are doing to small European languages. These are slowly being crushed to death. Denmark has an offical policy of becoming a dual language country: Danish and English. Both languages will not live together in peace, they will compete. One is small, the

[USMA:13628] Re: OT Re: Re: http://election.independent.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=76500

2001-06-10 Thread Han Maenen
John and all, Prices are increasingly dual in national currency and euro, but the euro is not yet availabe. I still do not see changes in gasoline stations. After 2002-01-01, when the euro becomes availabe, there ill be a period of a month in which old currency and coins can be used side by sid