Marcus,
These aims can be found on of their three sites, the BWMA Online one. (I even
think they have four sites as I suspect that the Inch Perfect site is also a
BWMA one).
Go to http://www.bwmaonline.com
where you enter the homepage; go down the page and you will find their aims,
copied
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Datum:Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:22:45 +0100
Van:"Joseph B. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Antwoord aan:"Joseph B. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OnderwerpRe: Questions about measurement standards
Aan:Austin Spreadbury <[EMAIL
Got this from the BWMA:
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Datum:Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:17:01 +0100
Van:Austin Spreadbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Antwoord aan:Austin Spreadbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OnderwerpRE: Questions about measurement standards
A
One of the latest articles in BWMA's Yardstick.
Especially the bit about 'a perfect cup of coffee' is a real joke.
METRICATION MADNESS
(Yardstick Aug 2001)
This was the title of a feature article by Bernard Levin in The Times on 15
August 1995 - yes, six years ago!
For he was one of only tw
About the letter to the editor in the Irish Times dealing with the (lack of)
metric usage in Ireland. I propose that you pitch in and send letters too.
Han
Weather Channel has a British site with largely metric forecasts. Only wind
speeds are in mph.
http://www.weather.co.uk
Han
I went to a Dutch route site, http://www.routenet.nl, which offers maps and
itineraries in Dutch and English. Here is one that is as it should be in
English: from my home address in Nijmegen to the home of my old teacher of
English, a grand old lady, who still lives in Heerlen:
The route fro
To all,
Go to the *French* site for maps and itineraries at http://www.maporama.com and
ask for itineraries in OTHER LANGUAGES THAN ENGLISH! For instance: Paris-
Amsterdam, Paris-Nice etc. I tried Dutch, Polish and French.
You will gasp!
#$&*@#$+&*@&!
Han
Personally I think that these stories are true. But I found on one of the BWMA
sites (I will check when home) the following propaganda:
French railway engineers do not use the 1435 or 1430 mm size but but 4 ft 8.5
in or in French 4 pieds 8,5 pouces.
I think that this is an enormous lie. Why sho
I go to Castlebar every year and I was there this year too. I take part in Four
Day's Walks, but they were cancelled this year because of the F&M disease in
Britain. I decided to go to Castlebar anyway, besides staying in Dublin, Galway
and Killarney.
About the use of the pint in Irish pubs: t
Original message:
It is strange to see Ireland using units like the perch and the acre when
they are in all other respects a fully metricated country.
We are talking about Southern Ireland here, by the way, aren't we?? Not
Northern Ireland, which would explain a lot!!
Regards,
Steve.
[
The word perch as well as the word acre (perk and akker) have survived in the
netherlands, but not as measuring units. The akker is a field and a perk is a
small piece of grassland, a small lawn in other words. You can still see the
difference in size of these former units of area,
Han
A journalist from the Guardian, William Fotheringham, whose articles are also
to be found in the Irish Times has peculiar ideas about France and about the
organizers of the Tour de France. If I have to believe Mr Fotheringham
distances are measured in decimal (!) miles and the altitude of moun
In Killarney I saw an ad for land. It measured 37 acres 3 roods 15 perches. The
same ad gave distances to population centers in decimal miles.
On the other hand, estate agent Hamilton Osborne King from Dublin is
predominantly metric, gives only ifp next to metric here and there. I have no
time
I wish all my American comrades in arms a very good Fourth of July! Enjoy the
craic! (craic is an Irish word for excitement). I only hope that the
temperature is not too high up in the thirties!
Remember: last year on the Fourth, a certain Steven T. in Sunderland, Britain,
got a visit he did
The message USMA 13778 from Stanley Doore: Weatheroffice site HAS ifp option is
probably still contaminated weith a virus attachment!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There IS and Imperial option on this site. See my message 13766 and 13769:
Take a look to the attachment
Attachment: 2 images.pif
We have seen how European and other websites that are metric only have
corrupted themselves in order to accommodate the whims of ifp goons.
I think it is possible that anti-metric groups scour the internet for metric
only sites, and then, feiging to be private persons who are 'confused' by
me
Error:
it should have been
http://www.ukmetrication.com
Han
The British pro-metric site by Metric Mickey with its previous URL
http://www.ukmetrication.co.uk
has changed to
http:www.ukmetrication.com
For Chris: you can change the link on your site. At present it goes to a
meaningless page about domains as it still links with the old URL.
Han
Just before Britain adopted decimal currency in 1971 the right winger A.J.P.
Taylor wrote this rot:
This Metric Madness
A.J.P.Taylor in the Sunday Express
NEXT February [1971] we shall be plunged willy-nilly int
This excuse about 'big demand' is always made by the bootlickers in Europe who
kow-tow to ifp goons and attack us in the back.
They could politely refuse to have non-metric on their maps, stating that
metric is the legal system in their country and that those English speaking
people will encou
They make me literally sick. They are traitors and fools. In my opinion they
are worse than the BWMA and F2M. At least they have a convicion and they are
fighting for a cause. These mainland Europeans who indulge in ifp to please the
anti-metric folk are bootlickers without self respect. These
Got this from the BWMA. I am curious what they will answer,
Han
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Datum:Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:41:31 +0100
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Antwoord aan:mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OnderwerpRe: Questions about measurement standards
Here is the ifp weather forecast for Amsterdam on Weatheroffice.com
I am not going to pester them about it. Only a fool here would choose it.
They are no Weather Channel! I inflicted this on myself by clicking Imperial
Units. It will remain my favourite international weather site.
Han
Amsterd
There IS an Imperial option on this site. See my messages USMA 13766 and 13769.
Go to the homepage and click a Province on the map of Canada. That brings you
to a map of the province, on which red dots represent cities and towns; then
click a red dot. When the city page comes up, you get the f
I have just deleted two of Stan's virus e-mails too.
Two attachments named"2 docs.scr.Applications/octet-stream",
Han
These are a number of E-mails sent to the BWMA in support of the Metric
Martyrs. I should thank the BWMA and that person from New Zealand for giving
away that stupid Danish company. The e-mails are on their Footrule site.
Han
Have your say.
Messages of support are being received from, litera
Stanley Doores computer is still infected. I just got this message from his
system and I have deleted it. At present I am using a public computer, which
means I could delete it while it was still in the provider's mailbox,
'Han Maenen' wrote:
I sent this message to the 'metric' company Ri
To all,
Go to http://www.ripensa.com, have a look at their product palette and feel
your temperature rise to dangerous levels. They 'prefer' ifp to metric, metric
is always secondary to hard avoirdupois contents, without them making a
statement about their 'preference'. They simply use this t
These are the technical details of one of the largest car ferries in the world.
Soon I will sail on her from Holyhead, North Wales to the North Wall, Dublin
Port; she is owned by Irish Ferries. To see the Ulysses in all her glory go to
http://www.irishferries.com
The technical data are almost a
BRITISH WEIGHTS AND MEASURES ASSOCIATION
SUNDOWN OVER SUNDERLAND
The Thoburn trial and its consequences.
Vivian Linacre, Director, British Weights & Measures Association
(Article first published in The Salisbury review, Summer 2001)
Ironically, it is those responsible for imposing compulsor
Bill,
Thanks for your information. This morning I asked the PTB about the meaning of
v.MW by e-mail. I may get an answer from them too.
To all,
The pro-metric site http://www.ukmetrication.co.uk has moved to
http://www.ukmetrication.com
Han
Found this 'gem' on http://www.research.ibm.com about a new HD storage
technology. Extremely disappointing. I also clicked the Japanese language page
and there I recognized the same measuring unit used in the English text below:
17 and 100 Gb/in2.
It really seems that IBM is not moving toward
To-day I read in a newspaper that a dangerous virus hoax is spreading through e-
mails. It tries to convince users to erase a valid Windows file.
It claims that the Windows file sulfnbk.exe is a dangerous worm and should be
deleted at once.
The subject matter of the e-mailwas not given. But DO
Eagle eyed officials from Peterborough's Weights & Measures Department spotted
Lynne Gibb's advertisement in her local paper offering to press a 10lb load of
clothes for £4.99. They threatened her with a £1,000 fine unless she changed her
pricing policy to kilos. (Mail on Sunday 20/5/01)
Two
Found this in 'Press Reports' on the http://www.ukmetrication.co.uk site:
Supporters of a greengrocer being prosecuted for selling in Imperial measures
have accused Tesco of "hypocrisy" for exploiting his campaign. Tesco attracted
thousands of new customers by proclaiming a return to Imperial
This funny message was on the forum of the Metric Sucks website. It is a bogus
attack on metric, which in fact shows how ludicrous ifp is! I nearly choked
with laughter. Jack Daniels is a friend of the cause,
Han
METRICSUCKS.COM Message Board
Metric is for third world countries
Posted
I really wonder if Mr Linacre gives the present day definitions of the inch,
foot, yard, pound and Imperial gallon! Has he mentioned the Mendenhall order
and the agreement of 1959?
If he has done so, he has shot himself in the foot!
Han
Toall,
Mr Linacre has written a book about ifp,
Han
BRITISH WEIGHTS AND MEASURES ASSOCIATION
At last ~ everything you wanted to know but were afraid to ask!
A GUIDE TO CUSTOMARY WEIGHTS AND MEASURES
Compiled and edited by Vivian Linacre, Director, BWMA
Published in May 2001 this guide g
I got this from the BWMA Battle Boards. This Bill Roland, who was named earlier
in this group is a very arrogant fellow (I am not at home now, and I do not
remember the USMA number). He tells the British that they should not use yards
but feet, as is done in the US. In other words, he wants th
To all,
The BWMA is now targetting weather forecasts. To the British members: be on
your guard! They have polled people and they claim that most British citizens
(74%) want weather in Imperial.
Han
METRIC WEATHER FORECASTS -
74% DON'T WANT THEM
British Weights and Measures Association's c
An article about the metric system. http://www.pobonline.com
On http://www/yahoo.com you can search for Metric Martyrs and there are 207
hits. This is one of them. It is about the MM's, the situation in the US in the
construction industry; last but not least it is 'humourously' anti-metric with
Got this from http://www.groups.google.com or http://www.deja.com (this still
works)
search "metric system".
This could be the beginning of an exciting development in the USA and the death
knell for ifp! And nobody 'forced' them to accept metric, no, they did it
willingly. It is a grassroots m
This is a rant by a certain Sean Gabb, who also posted on Dejanews.
This is the site from which this has been copied:
http://www.btinternet.com/~old.whig/flcomm/flc006.htm
Han
Free Life Commentary, an independent journal of comment published on the
Internet
Editor: Sean Gabb
Issue Number 6
1
An article about metrication and euro-scepsis in to-day's Irish Times, with
Thoburn as the hero,
Han
Thursday, 2000 April 12
Battling the EU to save
the other British pound
LONDON LETTER/Rachel Donnelly:
It
The latest news from our ' friends', towards the bottom some rantings they
received.
Han
BRITISH WEIGHTS AND MEASURES ASSOCIATION
THE TRIAL
This is Steven Thoburn
He is now on trial in a Sunderland court for the heinous crime of selling a
pound of bananas. He has been prosecuted for not
In The Netherlands he Thoburn case has been covered in several newpsapers and I
have seen him live on TV on the news,
Han
I wonder whether this will lead to Letters to the Editor of the Irish Times.
If so, I will copy them and send them to the list.
This morning I was looking at CEEFAX 1, I saw a headline about Thoburn going
for Parliament or something like that on p.111. Too bad, just when I pressed
111 on the r
I have just discovered http://www.savethepint.com
full of fiddlesticks and poppycock. There are also a number of reactions and
articles on it, all extolling ifp and excoriating metric.
Han
I found some more information on the units used in Russia before 1920. We can
be glad that they do not use the verst anymore, because these units, adopted
under Peter the Great, were part of the British ifp family.
The foot and the inch (fut and djujm), were exactly equal to their British
coun
To all,
This TABD text from 2000-12-17 has never been on our list. See how the trap of
a 'market driven permanent solution' is set here.
I will contact Mr. Pietracenza about this 'market driven' stuff.
Another question, **off topic** for US members of the list. Today I read in a
letter in t
I am forwarding this message from Nat Hager, whose own message had not come
through earlier.
Han
- Forwarded message from Nat Hager III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:32:12 -0500
From: Nat Hager III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:
To the BWMA the abolition of lb/oz is the same thing as the iconoclasm by the
Afghan Taliban.
Han
PRESS RELEASE 18.3.01
IMPERIAL FINALE, OR THE ABOLITION OF HISTORY
BWMA's condemnation of the Commons' debate on the complete end to imperial
measures.
Taliban are condemned for destroying t
To all,
Aiwa Europe sent a positive answer in Dutch to me. I translate it here. It shows
the crooked thinking of the Japanse electronics industry in a most glaring way,
it thinks that ifp is a global standard! This notion must be destroyed at all
cost.
Dear Han,
To start: thanks for your in
Tom is right. In the Netherlands we call folding measuring sticks 'inch sticks'
(duimstok, the Germans call it Zollstock, which means the same), there may be
inches and metric on them, but many inch sticks now come without inches. I have
a one meter inch stick at home. If I were not in a self
I found this gem, where Mike Warren (http://www.mike-warren.com), gives an
answer to a load of **, written by a certain David Warren in the (Canadian)
National Post. He is a Canadian friend of the cause. Alas, the orginal article
by his namesake is not available anymore, I tried the link b
Gustaf,
You have been had by the BWMA propaganda. If what they claim were true, nobody
on the globe would be using the metric system. It would be far too illogical
and unusable. Napoleon made the same claims, and he nearly brought it down.
Yet, it survived, and now it is being used by the lar
The BWMA has a site for anti-metric activists; they now have no less than three
sites.
On this one
http://www.bwmaOnline.com
It has a rogues' gallery of metricators. The USMA, UKMA and Metric Sense
Campaign by Lady Attlee figure on it too. And Greg is not missing either!
And there are 'An
I found this article about Thoburn on the website of Ian Paisley, founder of
the Free Presbyterian Church in Ulster, from his bogus European Institute of
Protestant Studies, a pseudo-scholarly institute that spreads hate against
Catholics and their religion. But here Ian also comments on the M
I have tried to go to the site of the British Warts and Measles Association,
but the other BWMA has succeeded in rerouting it. If you click
http://www.bwma.org.uk
you end up here
http://www.footrule.org
Some time ago I downloaded and saved some stuff from the Inch Perfect site
on my computer. I have a lot of pro- and antimetric material on my hard drive.
Here is the incredible nonsense someone wrote. Ifp is almost God-given, metric
is atheistic. I think that quantum physics is thoroughly SI,
A Select committee of 1816 defined a number of standards which in the end led to
the Imperial system. It made a number of recommendations and this was one of
them:
Quote
12. Resolved,
That it is the opinion of this Committee, That it ought to be penal for any
person to have in his possessio
These are the entries in the gustbook of http://www.ukmetrication.co.uk
Chris was the first to sign it, my entry is the latest, an answer to the
ravings of a lunatic. There are two entries from a British Warts and Measles
Association member too. Go to that site and leave your mark! It deserves
A new British pro-metric website has been put on the Net very recently!
http://www.ukmetrication.co.uk/
Go and visit it!
Han
To all,
If you want a good laugh, go there
http://www.bwma.org.uk/
You will find out there what BWMA *really* means!
Han
(I sent this message hours ago, but I do not see it in my letterbox)/
I found this on Google, thread All this anti-metric talk, jingoism, and ugh...
Someone needs to be made aware that for instance on the moon 1 lbm = 0.16 lbf
(appr), while the natural constant 9.8 m/s2 is universally the same.
In the Technical system we had 1 kgm = 1 kgf at sea level, but on the
To all,
The discussion on the Google site is interesting. I searched there for 'metric
system', 'BWMA' and 'freedom2measure'. The boy from the latter outfit now calls
himself 'makomborero'.
Google is lightning fast! On deja.news loading was often very slow and
ponderous, and it sometimes hun
I went to the site of the UKIP and dripped tihs bombshell in their forum
"Guard the Yard",
Han
I have (old) news for all those pro- and anti-metric. The metric system is as
British as it is "European". In fact, it is the global language of measurement,
just like English is the global language
I tried Deja too and got this from Google; it seems that we will get everything
back, I hope that it will be soon. The only way out is to try Google until
things are right again,
Han
Google Inc. has acquired Deja.com's Usenet Discussion Service, including its
archive of more than 500 millio
I found this on their site http://www.footrule.org
BRITISH WEIGHTS AND MEASURES ASSOCIATION
ANTI-CONSUMER GROUPS
(Footrule Jan 2001)
In its pro-metrication propaganda the Department of Trade and Industry makes
great play of the alleged support for official policy from "Consumer Groups".
The weights and measures circus show
The trial of Sunderland greengrocer Steve Thoburn for selling fruit and veg in
imperial measurements has attracted the same kind of attention as a circus,
writes Martin Wainwright
Martin Wainwright
Guardian Unlimited
Monday January 15, 2001
Those treac
Chris and all,
The BWMA, which boasts about non-metric usage in industry will not like this.
This is about the photo- and electronics industry. I got it from the USMA site
at Did you know that...
Han
2000 April:
METRICATION CELEBRATIONS ARE IN ORDER AT EASTMAN KODAK CO
USMA President Lo
Yes, this looks like the bogus EU standards of straight bananas and cucumbers,
Euro-mincemeat, Euro-condoms, Euro-bread etc. Only, all these things have
appeared to be hoaxes, invented by the British anti-EU movement.
That soft conversion of ifp to metric is priceless! Do they want to go to Ma
To all,
I got this message from Michael Paine. Dit anybody else get an error when he or
she opened the attachment I sent with that e-mail? I simply followed the
instructions for sending attachments. The document was saved on Word 97 and I
have Windows 98. If opening the attachment caused an e
I have found out that the French (!!!) company Peugeot sells scooters on the
continent of Europe with dual speedometers, in other words with km/h and mph
and I want to do something about it. What makes Peugeot do such a thing is
entirely beyond me. BWMA: another candidate for the Inch Perfect
To-day there was a reaction in the paper version of the Telegraaf bij someone
who works in the Dutch Metrology Institute (NMI), on the BWMA/UKIP ifp goon
article bij the Dutch Euro-hater Prof. Smalhout. (I think that he should set up
a EWMA, to achieve Imperial adoption here, and what about a
I am using a computer at the uiversit--* now. When I just sat down it was just
re-starting. Then I saw the wrong time and date settings. Some $@#$&*# idiot
had just changed the countr-- settings to USA. So, I immediatel-- re-set it to
the original Dutch settings. There are Americans and Britis
I found this on the Yahoo Metricamerica Club,
Han
International proposal millitesla
12/15/00 10:44 pm
I've been sent the following draft proposal:
ICSCA VII Meeting on 21 and 22 February 2001 in Singapore
Title: Metric
Statement of Issue: The use of Metric only Units.
Background:
Amendme
I propose that all US citizens on the list make their feelings known to
Panasonic. That may make them see the light,
Han
> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
> this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
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I made a typo in my last message.
Septante means 70, octante means 80 and nonante means 90.
I wrote that septante means 60.
Han
To all,
The French numbers could have been shorter if the medieval, but very elegant
numbers septante, octante and nonante had been retained. They mean 60, 70 and
90. The French numbers like quatre vingt-dix are a remnant or the 20 based
number system, just like 'four score and ten' is.
Then
I foud this o one of the pages of the BWMA site. Sour grapes, indeed, as these
voices must have died out by now,
Han
Australian Comments
Extract from "The Abacus" (B.A.M.Moon)
The metric system violates the natu
To all,
News from the BWMA. Do NOT enjoy!
Han
Defend your freedom to useBritish weights and measures
Criminal to be British?
>From the end of 1999 it is to be illegal to sell fruit, vegetables, etc.,
priced by the pound. It will be a criminal offence to use our own- weights and
measures
Indeed, I won't open this attachment either. By co-incidence the Dutch
word 'gif' means poison! Too much 'gif' is being spread by e-mail attachments,
also with endings like -exe, -txt etc.
Han
Quoten kilopascal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2000-12-19
>
> When your e-mail arrived via the list
I got this message from Mr. Melenchuk too,
Han
- Doorgestuurd bericht van "Jozsa, Robert ED0"
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Datum:Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:40:16 -0600
Van:"Jozsa, Robert ED0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Antwoord aan:"Jozsa, Robert ED0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OnderwerpResponse to your
Here comes what is really behind this ridiculous proposal: at least one of the
educators who favours it, the grain farmer Mr. Gary Shaddock,has refused to
adopt metric in his business. As he and his ilk do not want to learn and use
metric, Canadian young people must be forced to learn and use
Dennis (and all),
Resistance to metric was generally of an other kind than it is now in the
English speaking countries. Usually it was passive. It was simply continuing
using the old units and never giving any motive for not using metric. Yet this
type of resistance was very effective as it h
The lengths some people go to avoid the metric system are really amazing. Maybe
they equate it with the Ebola virus, which should be avoided at all cost indeed.
He could have solved his problem simply by getting and using metric recipes. On
the Internet anybody can find lots ad lots of them!
H
To all,
According to that splendid metric weather site Weatherchannel there is a
heatwave going on in The Hague, Netherlands. It is 40 degrees there at
present Read their newsitem about the climate conference,
Han
Delegates not biking to climate conference
Wed Nov 15 2000 3:31pm EDT
Ju
To all,
I know that this article has been discussed earlier, but here is the entire
thing in all its awfullness ad rottenness. It can be accessed on the USMA site,
in the section on articles about metric, year 2000. These ifp goons are
incredible! He knows NOTHING at all about the entire issu
This is a NASA educational astronomy site, the Starchild site. It seems to be
metric only! I would recommend it. Go to:
http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/
Han
About the dimensions of soccer fields:
The Fifa rules state the following:
min./max. length of the field: 90-100 m
min/max. widths: 45 - 90 m.
For international events:
min/max. lengths: 100 - 110 m
min./max widths: 64 - 75 m
The Corner arc may be 1 m or 1 yard diagonal. All other dimensions w
To all,
Does the Canadian Metric Association have a website or is it developing one?
Han
Quoten "Hooper, Bill and or Barbara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Han criticizes my argument against learning and using the prefixes centi
> deci deka and hecto by saying:
>
> > From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [USMA:8839] Re: Cribsheet
> >
> > The prefixes centi-, deci-, deca and
To all,
NASA and its French counterpart CNES have agreed to undertake a mission to Mars
in 2007. The aim is to take back organic and other samples from Mars to Earth.
In 2003 or 2004 an Ariane 5 rocket will launch an American robot, a small
launching pad and a French orbiter.
If NASA is seriou
In Europe, paper for inkjet and laserprinters is all in A-sizes now and only
g/m2 quantities are on the boxes, also the paper sold by HP here. This has been
a reversion that I welcomed very much. I still remember all those boxes of non-
metric tractor paper stacked high in computer shops and on
To all,
A few days ago I read on a Dutch anti-smoking site that the Camel Trophy has
been or will take place for the last time this year. This is good for two
reasons: it was propaganda for smoking and it was also propaganda for the
world wide use of ifp. In all its publicity, in any languge
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Datum:Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:53:01 +0200
Van:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Antwoord aan:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OnderwerpRe[2]: TFI Website
Aan:Han Maenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dear Han Maenen,
Thank you for your comments. We will take them into account
To all,
I wil post Marcus's message to Jake on the Yahoo metric club tonight. The piece
about dividing 5' 3 7/8'' by three was very good indeed.
Han
I wonder if he is as good in using Imperial as he is in using his own native
language.
Han
Quoten [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I've just received the following e-mail:
>
> >You are so pathetic.
> >why do you not just let people use the system they want?
> >
> >What have it got to do with you, what p
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