Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp vs. SAN Media Server

2008-12-12 Thread Jon Bousselot
> > With snapshots enabled on the filer, the chances are pretty good you > won't ever have to do a restore for your SQL admins. > .../Ed Alternatively, you could pony up for the Snap Manager for MS-SQL license, and you can make your DBA's do the backups AND restores. It links the process of

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp vs. SAN Media Server

2008-12-12 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Curtis Preston wrote: > Ed Wilts said: > >With snapshots enabled on the filer, the chances are pretty good you > won't ever have to do a restore for your SQL admins. > > > > Because he's creating a new dump each day, I'm not sure that's true. > Snapshots only work

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Andrew White
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Curtis Preston wrote: > Suit!?!?! Them's fightin' words! > > > > I need to do a blog on this, as I answer this question a lot. > > > > If you want to do weekly backups using frequency based schedules, here are > your choices. > > > >1. Leave the window open

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
Hmmm... Looks like I've got some testing to do. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   cpres...@glasshouse.com |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: ver

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 06:31:20PM -0500, Curtis Preston wrote: > The only goofy thing about calendar-based schedules (and it really > annoys me) is that most people use a 6 PM to 6 AM clock (or some > evening hour to some morning hour). If you tell NBU to do the full on > the 1st Friday of the mo

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
Suit!?!?! Them’s fightin’ words! I need to do a blog on this, as I answer this question a lot. If you want to do weekly backups using frequency based schedules, here are your choices. 1. Leave the window open only on the night you want the backup to run. Schedules that succee

Re: [Veritas-bu] Best exclude list for Windows, solaris, linux ?

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
You can also use bpgetconfig and bpsetconfig. Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   cpres...@glasshouse.com |  www.glasshouse.com Infrastructure :: Optimized -Original Message- From: verit

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
I am a proponent of the one-client-per-policy design. I've blogged about it: http://www.backupcentral.com/content/blogsection/4/47/ Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   cpres...@glasshouse.com |

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp vs. SAN Media Server

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
Ed Wilts said: >With snapshots enabled on the filer, the chances are pretty good you won't ever have to do a restore for your SQL admins. Because he's creating a new dump each day, I'm not sure that's true. Snapshots only work the way you describe if you're modifying files, not completely overw

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp vs. SAN Media Server

2008-12-12 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 02:23:26PM -0600, Randy Samora wrote: > Hi Kids, > > I have a Windows environment and NBU 6.5.2a. I have a SAN Media Server > that houses and backs up my SQL dumps. Those backups run the longest > but by far the fastest. My SAN guys purchased a NetApp device and have > d

Re: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Survey Posted - Thanks

2008-12-12 Thread Dean
In your "What part of the United States are you located in?" question, you need a "Not located in the United States" option. Or, make it clear up front that you are only interested in hearing from people in the US. Cheers, Dean ;) On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 3:46 AM, wrote: > Below is the link to

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp vs. SAN Media Server

2008-12-12 Thread Randy Samora
Thanks Ed. I'm pricing the NDMP license now and it isn't going to be cheap. From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 14:46: VIRUS ALERT! To: Randy Samora Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp vs. SAN Media Server On Fri, De

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetApp vs. SAN Media Server

2008-12-12 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Randy Samora wrote: > I have a Windows environment and NBU 6.5.2a. I have a SAN Media Server > that houses and backs up my SQL dumps. Those backups run the longest > but by far the fastest. My SAN guys purchased a NetApp device and have > decided to have the SQL

[Veritas-bu] NetApp vs. SAN Media Server

2008-12-12 Thread Randy Samora
Hi Kids, I have a Windows environment and NBU 6.5.2a. I have a SAN Media Server that houses and backs up my SQL dumps. Those backups run the longest but by far the fastest. My SAN guys purchased a NetApp device and have decided to have the SQL dumps write directly to the NetApp device and imple

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Rusty . Major
Man in the suit, I'd like to hear your reasons against frequency based scheds. For my situation, I want a full backup once a week, once a month, once a quarter, once a year, etc. *I* don't care when it happens, though my customer might, though in most circumstances, backups should not hinder t

Re: [Veritas-bu] Full backup followed by a Differential= Another Full

2008-12-12 Thread Randy Doering
Thanks for the replies/pointers to this question. The 200644.htm doc was helpful. Now, I've tested 3 environments: Isilon - NDMP; NetApp - NDMP and Solaris - Standard backup. In each case, I used a chgrp command to change the ctime of a small set of files. I then kicked off a Differential for

[Veritas-bu] Using NetBackup to backup a DPM server

2008-12-12 Thread Kathryn Hemness
Greetings - Is there anyone on this list who is successfully backing up a DPM server from a Unix or Linux NetBackup server? If so, would you mind sharing your secrets? I've read the applicable sections of the DPM manuals and it looks like work on the client side is required for a successful bac

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread bob944
> This is a really well-thought-out answer to his question. > Although I don't agree with ALL of your recommendations (I > don't like frequency-based schedules for fulls), this is > actually a pretty good summary of what someone should do to > setup a new backup environment. You've inspired m

Re: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Survey Posted - Thanks

2008-12-12 Thread debbie . lang
Below is the link to my survey. Thank you for your help. I will post my findings when completed. Survey is on Reducing Costs of Backups. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=v6a2TZ4h4U2DVmZZzP2yGA_3d_3d I hope you have time to help me out of my JAM !!! If you have any additional questions pleas

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
I agree with Ed I am the guy in the Jeans and T-Shirt. 1) Nowt wrong with frequency schedules for Fulls! Use them all the time 2) Keep the Policies and Volumes to a LESS as possible. 3) Over complexing the system makes NBU harder to administer than it really, really needs to be ! Simon (W

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Curtis Preston wrote: > Bob, > > This is a really well-thought-out answer to his question. Although I don't > agree with ALL of your recommendations (I don't like frequency-based > schedules for fulls), this is actually a pretty good summary of what someone > shou

Re: [Veritas-bu] How to plan out policy(schedules), [...]

2008-12-12 Thread Curtis Preston
Bob, This is a really well-thought-out answer to his question. Although I don't agree with ALL of your recommendations (I don't like frequency-based schedules for fulls), this is actually a pretty good summary of what someone should do to setup a new backup environment. You've inspired me to

Re: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Question about posting to site

2008-12-12 Thread Jeff Lightner
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Fw: Question about posting to site

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