Re: [VFB] RE: Bleaching Possum or other naturals

2011-01-02 Thread Don Ordes
Wayne, That fly body looks whiter than a bleached fur would come out, as it usually would have just a shade more yellow or tan. Are you looking to copy this fly perfectly, or use it as a go-by? I would also substitute cree for the hackles. Hook: Standard Dry fly size 10-18 Thread

Re: [VFB] RE: Bleaching Possum or other naturals

2011-01-02 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi DonO;   The tying instructions I found online called for bleached Austrailian possum such as this one:  www.flyfishingconnection.com/patterns/flies/104/Wulff,+Ausable   Are you suggesting not to bleach it and just use the lightest color you can get from the pelt or "natural blomde" instead?  

Re: [VFB] VFB Alive and Well

2011-01-02 Thread Peggy Brenner
Well, said Larry, and this is what I've found to be the reason for the growth of online clubs for fly tying and fishing. Some of these local clubs welcome you with open arms till they find out you don't want to volunteer for a second job there. Some of our local TU clubs have 3-4 positions

Re: [VFB] RE: Bleaching Possum or other naturals

2011-01-02 Thread Don Ordes
I don't know, Wayne, those trout may like natural blonde possums as opposed to bottle-blondes. I love working with Aussie Possum- it has a texture ansd thickness unlike anything else. Closest thing might be lambs wool, but the natural colors are more like squirrel. Buggs - Original Mes

Re: [VFB] RE: Bleaching Possum or other naturals

2011-01-02 Thread mel hocken
Wayne You need to use a solution of peroxide. The same chemical hair dressers use when bleaching women's hair. There are several books and magazine articles which contain directions for bleaching. A.K. Best has a good book on dying and bleaching materials. Mel - Original Message -

Re: [VFB] VFB Alive and Well

2011-01-02 Thread Larry Johnson
I agree with Jimmy: Long live the VFB !! I "stumbled" onto the VFB by accident quite a few years ago. I arranged to meet Tony in Salt Lake City, when he was at the Outdoor Show as a tier for Gudebrod. Tony: What year was that? I have been to the Sowbug three times. Last year I tried to ta

[VFB] RE: Bleaching Possum or other naturals

2011-01-02 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi All;   The recent thread got me wondering, how do you bleach a natural material white?   Thanks in advance;   Wayneb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from thi

Re: [VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum?

2011-01-02 Thread Don Ordes
Pete, Reuven is talking about me. Send me your address and I'll send you some possum. You don't owe me a thing. Your referral to Dr. Kopitnik has set you up for life. LOL DonO - Original Message - From: Peter Gramp To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011

Re: [VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum?

2011-01-02 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi Reuven;   Got it, Thanks!    We are english speaking people separted by an uncommon language LOL! Wayneb --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Reuven Segal wrote: From: Reuven Segal Subject: Re: [VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 4:29 PM

Re: [VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum?

2011-01-02 Thread Reuven Segal
Please note that in Australia it is called Possum and not Opossum. R On 1/3/2011 8:14 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi Peter; Are you looking for regular or bleached Austrailian Opossum? I looked up the pattern thinking it called for american opossum but listed bleached(pure white in photo)

Re: [VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum?

2011-01-02 Thread Reuven Segal
Hi Peter: I know I tend to lurk around here a little over the past year or two, but I sense a mate in trouble!! I send over a bunch a couple months ago so someone may be able to help, however, I am happy to send it over to you for free. I am going on a family/fishing trip till Thursday but

Re: [VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum?

2011-01-02 Thread Peter Gramp
You know, I didn't consider that - The pattern I'm looking at just lists it as "Australian Opossum" without any bleached adjective or such... but the photo looks like it very well may be. I can peroxide it if needed, no biggie. -Pete On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: > Hi

Re: [VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum?

2011-01-02 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi Peter;   Are you looking for regular or bleached Austrailian Opossum?  I looked up the pattern thinking it called for american opossum but listed bleached(pure white in photo) Austrailian opossum for abdomen.   Wayneb --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Peter Gramp wrote: From: Peter Gramp Subject: [VFB]

Re: [VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum?

2011-01-02 Thread Allan Fish
I'm wanting to tie up some ausable wulffs and need some Australian Opossum for it. Does anyone either: 1.) Have some extra they would be willing to trade material for material with me for? or 2.) Know of a US- based supplier where the material and shipping would total under 10 bucks? (I'm marri

[VFB] Material trade...Australian Possum?

2011-01-02 Thread Peter Gramp
I'm wanting to tie up some ausable wulffs and need some Australian Opossum for it. Does anyone either: 1.) Have some extra they would be willing to trade material for material with me for? or 2.) Know of a US- based supplier where the material and shipping would total under 10 bucks? (I'm married

Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread Peter Gramp
I'd start with the "dirty dozen" and work from there: Royal Wulff Parachute Adams Light Cahill Tan Elk Hair Caddis Yellow Humpy Black Ant (I prefer foam) Stimulator (I prefer yellow) Woolly Bugger (I prefer Olive, Black, or Chili Pepper) Muddler Minnow (I prefer conehead) Gold ribbed Hares ear (pre

Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread Rene Zillmann
Wayne, Don, I cannot commend on these waters you are discussing. But on the red dot I can. I fish a beetle pattern regularly with good results for trout. Body is made from blue dubbing, parachute hackle. I started this 12 years ago, tying the pattern with a red head (dubbing), later I got lazy and

Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread Rene Zillmann
Hi Tony, on my first trip to the sowbug I fished one evening a dry (you were not watching me, so i thought I could try it..) It was a comparadun in s. 18, Adams colors. Caught a trout for me... It was from your dock Rene On 01/02/2011 06:05 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote: > I have done very well on the

Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods

2011-01-02 Thread Scott Bearden
Wayne, I had to have a good chuckle about Dickerson's coming up on the used market. They are among some of the most collectible today. I would venture a guess that even in today's market you might be looking at $5000-10,000. But the tapers are publicly available and I happen to like them a lot. If

Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods

2011-01-02 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi Scott;   Interesting, the quad you have and quads I've seen of Tony's all seemed really light in my hands.  They also felt pretty stiff and fast compared to anything I've heard or seen in other bamboo rods.   I've been surfing Clark's board and kinda researching as much as I could, it seems l

[VFB] RE: Trout Flies-narrowed down a bit

2011-01-02 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi All;   I kinda left the question generic just to see what people found as their goto patterns.   Let me narrow my focus a bit,  I intend to fish the tailwater fisheries of the Gunpowder and the Pautuxent rivers and some of the small creeks in shenandoah national park.   The Gunpowder is much

Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread Scott Bearden
Wayne, To add to the suggestions that everybody else has said, I would say that in our neck of the woods I wouldn't leave home without several different ant patterns. Scott On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: > Hi All; > > One of my goals for 2011 is to get into flyfishin

Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread ashley strutt
I agree that fly selection depends the location but where Everett I go I wouldn't be without CDC sedge, parachute Adams, red ant, hares ear nymphs and griffiths gnat. Ashley On 2 Jan 2011 17:30, "Don Ordes" wrote: To add to the soup, you must consider how you will fish those waters- wading, dr

Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread Don Ordes
To add to the soup, you must consider how you will fish those waters- wading, drifting, pontooning, belly-boat, etc., and if you'll be doing dry flies or wet flies. And if wet-fly fishing, will it be dead-drifting or sight-indicator, or dragging buggers. Each approach and each technique may ca

Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread Joyce M Westphal
I wouldn't be without a Rainbow warrior (you can find it on the internet), Griffith's gnats, scuds and sowbugs, Lou's Save the Day (simple tie, mallard fiber tail, sparkle hare's ear body, copper wire rib, and UV flash wing). A few hoppers and ants also seem to work well as well as the old fashion

Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods

2011-01-02 Thread Scott Bearden
Wayne, I wouldn't say lighter. The have more mass than a hex rod of the same taper. For throwing bass bugs I would pick a Dickerson 8014 Guide Series. They were designed for one shot casts with heavy streamers from a swiftly moving boat. You don't have time for a lot of backcasts in that scenario

Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread Wes Wada
typing way too fast! adams natural blue wing olive On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Wes Wada wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > DonO's point about differences in patterns for eastern and wester USA is > well taken. > > I have always thought the Orvis 20-fly selection was a pretty good starting > point for

Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread Don Ordes
Wayne, Your question needs to be narrowed down a bit. Will you be fishing in creeks, rivers, or lakes? East-coast trout take a little bit different fare than Rocky-mountain trout, but many patterns will overlap. In 34 years of trout-fishing in the rockies, I have never settled down on a set n

Re: [VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
I have done very well on the Chili Peppers though not considered a trout fly. Zebra Midges, Scuds, Sowbugs ,Copper Johns are a few sub surfaces flies that work well here on the White. Can't tell you much about dry flies, I just have not fished them. Tony --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Wayne Blake-Hedges w

[VFB] RE: Trout flies

2011-01-02 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi All;   One of my goals for 2011 is to get into flyfishing for trout on a regular basis.   What would be a good selection of flies to start with for trout fishing?   Wayneb   -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send e

Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods

2011-01-02 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi Tony & Scott;   So, let me see if I have this right.  Quads are more difficult to make but, stiffer, faster, and potentially lighter than a hex rod? Wayneb --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Anthony Spezio wrote: From: Anthony Spezio Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Da

Re: [VFB] Twisted rods

2011-01-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
Dan, Most old type bamboo rods tend to be on the soft (slow) side. Twisting them stiffened them up a bit. That was back before heat treating the bamboo. I only know of one maker in the old days that made some of them. I do it because it is different. Elaborate jigs were used for glue up as hide

[VFB] Twisted rods

2011-01-02 Thread Dan
Hello all; This conversation about twisted rods is interesting to me. I have never heard of them before, and would like a bit more info on them. How, and why would you do that? Thanks for any and all info, Salty Dan Orange Texas If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky divin

Re: [VFB] RE: Another Bamboo question

2011-01-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
6 weight is the heaviest I have made but I have owned several 8 wt 9' bamboo bass rods. About wore out my shoulder in an hour of fishing. One was a Double Built Cross Special. Not for me. I will be making a 7 wt 8' bass rod for a client this summer. Tony --- On Sat, 1/1/11, Wayne Blake-Hedges w

Re: [VFB] VFB Alive and Well

2011-01-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
It is a small Pea brain but you can pick it if you like. Tony --- On Sat, 1/1/11, ray...@earthlink.net wrote: From: ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] VFB Alive and Well To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 9:52 PM 35 VFB posts today.  Just like old times.  I knew we

Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods

2011-01-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
Quads are stiffer and a bit more painstaking to plane out. Tony --- On Sat, 1/1/11, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: From: Wayne Blake-Hedges Subject: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods To: "virtual flybox" Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 10:32 PM Hi All;   Speaking of bamboo rods, what are the advantages/d

Re: [VFB] RE: Bamboo Fly rods

2011-01-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
I hope posting about bamboo rods does not turn any one off. The list needs some activity and at this time, this seems to be it. Scott is correct about being more difficult to plane out. not as forgiving as a Hex. The rod that Scott is talking about is based on a Garrison taper that was converted