Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds- Peggy

2011-08-22 Thread ashley strutt
Peggy and DonO, The red spot that I mentioned in the red spot shrimp is said to be a parasite seen in natural shrimps. There is something in the current issue of Flytyer about bright spots in flies. Ashley On 22 Aug 2011 05:35, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: - Original Message -

[VFB] RE: juice bug experiements, now Hot Spots

2011-08-22 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi All;   When I first started tying flies, they were for Bass and I remeber Lefty Kreh saying that he always included red in his Bass patterns somewhere, he felt it served as a trigger for the Bass. If it's good enough for Lefty I figured it was good enough for me. I've always used red

Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

2011-08-22 Thread Peggy Brenner
They seem to, but I always assumed a fish saw black and white, same as cats. But we had a cat that liked rad marabou. Or do I pick the fly with the hot spot days when the fish are more available? Peggy On 8/21/2011 9:39 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote: Hi Peggy; Do the hot spots seem to

Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

2011-08-22 Thread ashley strutt
I think there must be something about red because when fishing for Stripped Bass I found that red eyed flies were more productive than yellow eyed. Even the same pattern so little bits of red must form a trigger. Ashley On 22 Aug 2011 11:22, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: They

Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

2011-08-22 Thread Anthony Spezio
If you note the Florescent red collar on the WRD and the Fire Orange collar on the Chili Pepper that is why I think those flies are as effect as they are. Tony From: ashley strutt galeforce1...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22,

[VFB] Any open swaps right now?

2011-08-22 Thread Chappy
Just Curious. Looking to hit the bench with a purpose. Chappy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For

Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

2011-08-22 Thread Jack Lehman
I've never seen through a fish's eye, but.. they must be able to see color, or else what is the genetic advantage of having so much color on their bodies, especially at spawning time. It must be a cue to other members of their species, ie the ladies, that they are available. Jack Austin

Re: [VFB] Any open swaps right now?

2011-08-22 Thread Don Ordes
Hi, Chappy, Anything new on the rope-dub front? No swaps open that I know of. How about a juice-bug swap? Materials: Ice-dub, clear Jelly-rope (on-line), clear head cement, UV Wader repair Pearl strips Mono thread Melted mono/bead eyes (if used) DonO - Original

[VFB] A Swap?

2011-08-22 Thread Jimi AKA Desert Eagle
Hi folks, was thinking of all the activity over the weekend on the list, refreshing to say the least. Was thinking this morning of hosting a swap, in honor of the IOFF and the creative juices of the members. How about a nymph/ scud swap based on the thread of the juice bugs and blood spot

RE: [VFB] Any open swaps right now?

2011-08-22 Thread J Balmer
Can you buy jelly rope from any retail stores? -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:44 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Any open swaps right now? Hi, Chappy,

Re: [VFB] Any open swaps right now?

2011-08-22 Thread Jimi AKA Desert Eagle
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Re: [VFB] Some juice-bug experiments- bloody scuds

2011-08-22 Thread The Smiths
If fish only saw black and white we would not need all the colors we buy and would have missed out on the old victorian salmon flies. Gary S - Original Message - From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:22 AM Subject:

Re: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people

2011-08-22 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi DonO;   Well said!  I've come to think it's more about contrasting shades than any particular color.  I just happen to buy in to the red effect for Largmouth bass.  I would not be suprised at all if I were to photograph flies in black and white and determine which other colors would give

RE: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people

2011-08-22 Thread J Balmer
Regardless of how fish interpret what we consider color, in 50 years of fishing (particularly the last 30) I have been in situations where varioius species of fish seem to prefer a color when offered the same exact lure or fly in different ones. Large smallmouth bass trout appearing to be the

RE: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people

2011-08-22 Thread J Balmer
As to scent, I've used garlic spray and a couple of others w/ little discernable difference. Anise seems to work, probably because it masks human sweat oils, I've used a couple of soaps to wash my hands before handling lures. There may be a taste diffence that would give a half a sec of so to

Re: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people

2011-08-22 Thread Don Ordes
'be the fish... be the fish...' keep repeating that. - Original Message - From: J Balmer To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:51 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people As to scent, I've used garlic spray and a couple of others w/

RE: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people

2011-08-22 Thread J Balmer
I prefer catch the fish, ,catch the fish:) _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 11:07 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people 'be the fish... be the fish...'

Re: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people

2011-08-22 Thread Don Ordes
On scent, to me there are two aspects to start with- before the take and after the take. A soft plastic bait will feel real, but does it 'taste' real? Will they keep it long enough to set the hook? A hard bait doesn't feel real, so taste doesn't matter- hook-up is on the strike- they can't

Re: [VFB] Any open swaps right now?

2011-08-22 Thread Jeff Frye
Hobby Lobby Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: There's a bunch of on-line shops that carry it. - Original Message - From: J Balmer jbal...@betadigm.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:58 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Any open swaps

Re: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people now scent

2011-08-22 Thread Wayne Blake-Hedges
Hi DonO;   From my bait chunkin days, I found that crawfish and baitfish scents seemed to increase my catch rate, especially with hard baits and older style soft baits before the Senkos and the salt/scent added soft plastics became the norm.  Any oil including vegetable oil  worked to keep

Re: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people

2011-08-22 Thread Rene Zillmann
Fish see colors. Clark and Goddard did a nice book about how fish see. I ty my blue parachute beetle with a red head. and this version catches more fish. I tried it some years ago to use it without the red. On one evening I had no hits, changed the fly to a fly with the red head, first cast,

Re: [VFB] Color and fish, and in people

2011-08-22 Thread Rodger Oleson
On 8/22/2011 10:41 AM, J Balmer wrote: Regardless of how fish interpret what we consider color, in 50 years of fishing (particularly the last 30) I have been in situations where varioius species of fish seem to prefer a color when offered the same exact lure or fly in different ones. Large