Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Michael Meiser
On Jan 3, 2006, at 6:22 PM, Harold Johnson wrote: Yes, I recall reading that article; I definitely recommend it.  The bitch of it is, Cingular was the only mobile carrier willing to accept Apple's ROKR phone, knowing full well they'd be (potentially) losing the money they could have received from

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Harold Johnson
Yes, I recall reading that article; I definitely recommend it.  The bitch of it is, Cingular was the only mobile carrier willing to accept Apple's ROKR phone, knowing full well they'd be (potentially) losing the money they could have received from a phone that was able to wirelessly download mus

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread andrew michael baron
Engadget has a category called portable video: http://www.engadget.com/category/portablevideo/ It lists literally more than 100 personal video players. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Harold Johnson
The opportunity has been there...Apple just stepped into it.  Not as the first player, but as, arguably, the most stylishly clever one.Me, I can't afford no stinkin' iPod, so I'm more interested in the more affordable devices.  I picked up an iRiver audio player last year for this reason, and I'

[videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Bill Streeter
There might be some of those listed here: http://vlogmap.org/feedburner Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "avideye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well, I

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Joshua Kinberg
you're absolutely right. Technology is usually the least of any issue when relating to innovation. More often its usually business, politics, and social factors. -Josh On 1/3/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There was a good article in Wired a couple of issues back about why > ther

[videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Bill Streeter
There was a good article in Wired a couple of issues back about why there isn't a really good mobile phone/music service yet--and it's all about competing business interests not technology. I think it would be a safe bet that the same issues are or will be at play with video as well. Here is a

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Michael Meiser
On Jan 3, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Joshua Kinberg wrote: That's my point... I'll be at CES and will look for as many players as possible. This is still very early going in all of this. Video iPod is now about 2 months old. I'd hardly say it has the entire market captured. There are so many stakeholders

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Joshua Kinberg
There could be revenue there... dunno, its not something we've looked at too seriously with FireAnt. There's certainly revenue for the cellular providers since they charge for the amount of data consumed. There could be revenue by charging producers to particpate in such a program to make their fe

[videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread avideye
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I'm listed, not featured, and my subscriptions fell off by about > 25% over the holidays. Is that fascinating enough for you? > i wonder how that experience compares to those who get a 'featured" spot.

[videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Robert Spiro
All the cellphone Carriers have closed content decks -- so you need an express partnership to stream video to phones on the network. Interesting that MoBuzz TV, which is specifically targeted at mobile phones, hasn't formed any partnerships in the US. They do have a partnership with Vodafone Spai

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Joshua Kinberg
That's my point... I'll be at CES and will look for as many players as possible. This is still very early going in all of this. Video iPod is now about 2 months old. I'd hardly say it has the entire market captured. There are so many stakeholders in this game that I highly doubt a "one ring to r

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Devlon
On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not about formats or standards. I would definitely like to see > more unity there. That helps everyone. > > But I don't think Apple's closed loop is necessarily healthy for all. > > By your logic, we should all simply be satisfied w

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Joshua Kinberg
This is not about formats or standards. I would definitely like to see more unity there. That helps everyone. But I don't think Apple's closed loop is necessarily healthy for all. By your logic, we should all simply be satisfied with Windows, Internet Explorer, and whatever else is the de-facto.

[videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Bill Streeter
Well, I'm listed, not featured, and my subscriptions fell off by about 25% over the holidays. Is that fascinating enough for you? Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "avideye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It'd be fascinating to hear from videoc

[videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread avideye
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not underwhelmed, just unwilling to concede that Apple is the *only* > player out there. > > There is more than Apple. Much more. I believe that video creators, > consumers, and participants should have choices. Le

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Devlon
On 1/3/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not underwhelmed, just unwilling to concede that Apple is the *only* player out there. There is more than Apple. Much more. What else is there? (besides, PSP and that gadget Jay just mentioned?) I believe that video creators, consumers,

Re: [videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread Joshua Kinberg
Not underwhelmed, just unwilling to concede that Apple is the *only* player out there. There is more than Apple. Much more. I believe that video creators, consumers, and participants should have choices. Let there be more content, more creators, more devices, more software, more marketplaces, more

[videoblogging] Re: more players other than iPod

2006-01-03 Thread avideye
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > True. It's a shameleaves all the power in Apple's hands for now I > guess. I'm new here, so I'm just catching up and maybe I'be missed a lot of debate... With Apple putting so many portable video players into so many