On Jul 17, 2005, at 10:40 AM, ryanne hodson wrote:
> i just don't want it to hinder people
> i don't want people to stop creating content because no one donates
I think for many people this won't be a problem. I see lots and lots
of people who do it just for the pleasure of doing it - See
In using the word corporation in my rant I mean all types of corporations.
A corporation is in the simplest terms an artificial entity.
This includes not for profit organizations and corporations.
In Canada there are two basic types of companies : privately held
corporations (that cannot be
ryanne hodson wrote:
>
> will money dictate content?
> i get scared that it will.
>
For some, yes. For most, probably not. Most people are not going to
get paid to vlog, and the ones that do get paid I only see better
content coming from it. The more time people have to devote to their
w
to laugh at that man.
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From: "Halcyon Lujah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Money Changers, out! (was: reality check?)
> Money is just energy. Money is a resource.
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On 7/17/05, ro9core <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One things for sure, I'm not afraid and I'm ready to make some cool
> shit, not really for the people, but because it thrills me silly.
>
> Ro
AMEN!!
It makes me kindy tingly, too.
-Halcyon
"Thrilling myself silly"
On 7/17/05, ro9core <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Halcyon Lujah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > And if you want to change the world, you need to let go of your
> > negative feelings towards making money. A REVOLUTION NEEDS
> > RESOURCES.
>
> the
> i think i am one of the first videobloggers to have
> gotten sponsorship in april.
> flat out money to make my videoblog
Congratulations!
> it's hard to feel ok about accepting money to create
Perhaps it will become more easy in time, money =
time. that's how I look at it.
> will money b
I agree with Robert: I wouldn't like to see "Support me!" every time I
see a vlog entry in for instance mefeedia. But, just like text ads, I
wouldn't mind it as much if it was visible, but clearly out of the
way.
Perhaps Josh, Peter and Jay could implement an alternative version
where for inst
Ah, Ryanne,
Money is anything we decide it is. That's its real catch.
I've decided my most valuable commodity is time.
What may I do for you in the next week?
Jan
--
"It isn't done alone"
http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
http://blog.urbanartadventures.com
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On Jul 17, 2005, at 11:40 AM, rya
> money is good
> money is bad
My 2cents:
Money is just energy. Money is a resource.
Spending money is a way of saying, "I want more of _ in the world."
And if you want to change the world, you need to let go of your
negative feelings towards making money. A REVOLUTION NEEDS
RESOUR
On Jul 17, 2005, at 10:40 AM, ryanne hodson wrote:
> money is good
> money is bad
amen.
>
> i think i am one of the first videobloggers to have gotten sponsorship
> in april.
> flat out money to make my videoblog
> of course i chose to contribute to more than that, (how could i
> possibly f
Heh. Yesterday when I suggested I'd like to see more donation buttons I
failed miserably in differentiating between toolmakers and content
makers. Sorry about that, been running on insufficient sleep.
In the case of toolmakers, to me it's an easy call, you transfer a
reasonable amount int
> http://www.momentshowing.net/momentshowing/2005/07/video_relpaymen.html
money is good
money is bad
so which is it?
i guess it's some of both
i think i am one of the first videobloggers to have gotten sponsorship in april.
flat out money to make my videoblog
of course i chose to contribute
Oh, yeah - just a mention of a product - as on radio - can constitute a
"commercial" but making motion pictures, that's where the big fun will
be.
Thanks for sharing the price point.
Jan
--
"It isn't done alone"
http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
http://blog.urbanartadventures.com
.
On Jul 17,
Yea, I think that is where the 'fun' part comes in. :)
On Jul 17, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Jan McLaughlin wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> Don't forget that you guys are producers and are capable of making
> commercials as well as being paid to show them.
>
> Jan
> --
> "It isn't done alone"
> http://fauxpres
Andrew,
Don't forget that you guys are producers and are capable of making
commercials as well as being paid to show them.
Jan
--
"It isn't done alone"
http://fauxpress.blogspot.com
http://blog.urbanartadventures.com
.
On Jul 17, 2005, at 10:20 AM, andrew michael baron wrote:
> On Jul 17,
On Jul 17, 2005, at 3:53 AM, Jay dedman wrote:
>> I'd
>> like to see donation buttons on more tool dev sites. And I love the
>> spirit here in the group, that's the strongest currency.
>>
>
> http://www.momentshowing.net/momentshowing/2005/07/
> video_relpaymen.html
I think this sounds like
> I'd
> like to see donation buttons on more tool dev sites. And I love the
> spirit here in the group, that's the strongest currency.
http://www.momentshowing.net/momentshowing/2005/07/video_relpaymen.html
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http://www.momentshowing.net>
Adventures in Videoblogging
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Heh. The for-profit media are about selling advertising and the
*nature* (cough cough, bias) of each media company is ruled by the
ownership. If someone wants to judge them and call for-profit media
evil, well, that's a judgement call. If for-profit media senses an
earning threat, as most a
:)
The problem is that living as corporations are, they are not built with
hearts or souls. Which is not to say that they cannot - at the insistence
of their creators - have those things. It's just that hearts & souls are not
required corporate equipment.
When corporate survival requires
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>To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Money Changers, out! (was: reality check?)
>Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:31:27 -0500
>
>On Jul 16, 2005, at 11:17 AM, David Yirchott wrote:
>
> > But that isn't what people want. They wa
On Jul 16, 2005, at 11:17 AM, David Yirchott wrote:
> But that isn't what people want. They want sex and violence and
> sensationalism, etc. So what is a business supposed to do? Know your
> audience and deliver what they want.
That's what they'd have you believe. Not necessarily true.
http:
Gena,
Not to speak for Dierdre, but I think you have it a little wrong. You are
blaming corporations and media outlets for delivering what people want. I
think you should be blaming the people.
Corporations, as you said, are out to make money. That is their goal, plain
and simple. If they thoug
On 7/16/05, Gena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But is it compatible with the current state of video blogging? With
> this group? Can we learn from each other? Or, once they get the lay of
> the land, will they shut us out or restrict what we can and can't
> do?
They who? Who _could_ shut "us"
Maybe it is a bit forward of me to jump into a potentially contoversial
message board discussion one day after posting my introduction, but here
goes...
I agree with Dierdre, I don't understand the prejudice against
corporations/people seeking financial gain. It is very similar to the notio
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