Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-25 Thread Davis, Michael T
Good call on the mental margarita. It is past noon and I'm ready for a derivative, transformative mojito. Sent from my iPhone 757.279.8871 On Feb 23, 2012, at 6:07 PM, Dennis Doros milefi...@gmail.commailto:milefi...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to stay out of this -- I think VideoLib has

[Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread Mandel, Debra
Hi- Does anyone know if the Video at Risk project (dealing with reformatting of VHS tapes) has a relationship with the new ARL Code of Best Practices undertaking ? Have there been a conversation between these parties? Just Curious. Thanks. Debra Debra H. Mandel, Head, Digital Media Design

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread ghandman
Hi Debra Berkeley is a principle partner in this project (along with NYU). A significant part of the project will be identifying materials in collections which are eligible for reformatting, primarily under the provisions of Section 108, but possibly under the mantle of fair use, as well. None

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread Gail Fedak
Gary, Does this project have a proposed date to share its list of identified materials? Thanks, Gail On 2/23/2012 10:36 AM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi Debra Berkeley is a principle partner in this project (along with NYU). A significant part of the project will be identifying

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread ghandman
The project runs thru June--i.e. the second phase, which will produce lists of materials identified as possible 108 candidates in the collections of the partner insitutions (NYU/Avery Fisher; UCB MRC; and Loyola University in New Orleans)... (The last phase is to develop an RFP that defines

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread Jessica Rosner
Gary. I know I have mentioned this before but never directly asked you, is it your belief that in determining if an item is rare and should be preserved that no effort should ever be made to contact the rights holder/filmmaker? I ask because that is exactly what one of the top NYU people told a

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread Simpkins, Terry W.
Dear list, Many of the questions people are posing with respect to the ARL code could be solved by, radical as this idea may be, actually reading the code. However, since it's apparently much easier to complain than to learn, I will summarize what the code actually says on this issue. The

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread ghandman
Jessica, don't make me come over there and... What makes you think we're gonna be perfunctory in doing due diligence? Yes...we have developed a fairly elaborate template which takes a search thru thorough online searches in a number of databases; vendor sites; contacting producer and/or director

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread elizabeth mcmahon
Jessica,   Was that Howard Besser who said that at the ALA meeting? Elizabeth From: Jessica Rosner jessicapros...@gmail.com To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices Gary. I

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread Jessica Rosner
Actually what you have listed below is not what is in 108 but a clever version reworded to justify certain activities as fair use First it does not say likely to deteriorate it says it applies to copy that IS ( emphasis mine) damaged deteriorating, lost or stolen. There is HUGE difference between

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread Jessica Rosner
Well Gary all I can say is you have someone and their institution (NYU) who don't believe that. I can't really repeat some of the things I know but I will go out on a limb and say NYU has routinely streamed films many of which were not from standard legal sources so having them as a top member or

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread ghandman
You're probably talking about Howard, Jessica. Stop it, already...you're obsessing. The project has a very competent and level-headed media lawyer on board, and we're taking our cues from him. Gary Well Gary all I can say is you have someone and their institution (NYU) who don't believe

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread Dennis Doros
I was going to stay out of this -- I think VideoLib has become too adversary and everybody needs to step back and have a mental margarita -- but I believe that Jessica (a graduate of Francis W. Parker School which is much in the news today because the death of a producer of mine) has produced a

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread Jessica Rosner
tell you what, I will stop it re your project but NOT about the code and other activities. Of course I am obsessing I literally lost my job because of this so I get sensitive. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:00 PM, ghand...@library.berkeley.edu wrote: You're probably talking about Howard, Jessica.  

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread ghandman
That's three copies, Dennis..cf 108.b and 108c and secondly...we seem to be conflating issues of fair use with Section 108. These are not the same thing... and we are not advocating disregard for the provisions of this section. and I agree we need to tone it down a notch. gary I was going

Re: [Videolib] Video at Risk's Relationship to new ARL Code of Best Practices

2012-02-23 Thread Jessica Rosner
??? . This what you wrote The principle: It is fair use to make digital copies of collection items that are likely to deteriorate, or that exist only in difficult-to-access formats, for purposes of preservation, and to make those copies available as surrogates for fragile or otherwise inaccessible