[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change (fwd)

2005-09-08 Thread Ed Durbrow
It seems to me that Vihuela should be incorporated with the lute list as the instruments are almost the same except for the body shape. Baroque guitar, while looking superficially like a vihuela is quite a different beast. For myself, I'd be happy to discuss all, including Baroque & Medieval

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 03:48 PM 9/6/2005, Arto Wikla wrote: >Dear Wayne and all, > >I really would not like to be without the infinite - but very good >and informative! - discussion about the "bourdons and re-entrantness" of >the 5 course baroque guitar by Monica, Lex et al.! And perhaps there >will be more vihuela t

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Wayne and all, I really would not like to be without the infinite - but very good and informative! - discussion about the "bourdons and re-entrantness" of the 5 course baroque guitar by Monica, Lex et al.! And perhaps there will be more vihuela talk, too? Also interesting. But I think the

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread bill kilpatrick
on further reflection i think the name "vihuela" should stay. a list of a new name will only invite a further exchange of "is it or isn't it? ..." and - should i be accepted - another round of speciesist charango bashing. as it is, whenever "vihuela" is mentioned we can each assume we're tal

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
> There is certainly the possibility of that. So far the vihuela and baroque > guitar community have got along fine, except for the stupid > attack by RT on > Matanya, which led to Matanya leaving the list to the general > loss. I can't > recall another contribution by RT since that time other th

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
> When Wayne informed me of the interest in expanding the topic to include > 19th-century guitar, I said 'OK, but why not call it > earlyguitar?'. But now > I can see that he is worried about an influx of members and flame wars. > There is certainly the possibility of that. So far the vihuela and b

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Monica Hall
> I vote for Baroque guitar. Early guitar could even be Villa-Lobos on gut > strings. > Lex I second that - never could abide Giuliani - heresy I know. Monica > > > > > > > Hi folks - > > > > There is currently a discussion on the lute list > > concerning Beethoven and Giuliani which rea

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Rob MacKillop
UT - it is not my list. Do as you please, Wayne. It is all yours. Rob MacKillop -Original Message- From: Eugene C. Braig IV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 September 2005 16:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change My personal prefe

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Fabio Rizza
- Original Message - From: "Martyn Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Vihuela Net" Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change > > 'Early Guitar' please Wayne, otherwise we m

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
11:47:29 -0400 > To: "Fossum, Arthur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change > > At 11:40 AM 9/6/2005, Fossum, Arthur wrote: > >As far as lists for

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:25 PM 9/6/2005, apsu wrote: >I concur with Eugene (how's your darts play coming along, Eugene?) As badly as ever. I hope to see you in Oberlin to prove it. Eugene To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Fossum, Arthur
;. What do you think? -Original Message- From: Martyn Hodgson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:12 PM To: Vihuela Net Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change I agree with Eugene (see blw), there are no lists as far as I can see on which one would find,

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread apsu
An 'early guitar' list will probably not attract the 'mainstream' modern > guitar players and allow us to develop areas of overlap. > > Why not give it a probationery period? > > Martyn > > "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &g

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread bill kilpatrick
i think you're all being beastly. i'm here for the music - regardless of one's chordaphone of choice (call it what you will) and some e-bonhomie. high five - bill "and thus i made...a small vihuela from the shell of a creepy crawly..." - Don Gonzalo de Guerrero (1512), "Historias de la Conq

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
gene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:47:29 -0400 To: "Fossum, Arthur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change At 11:40 AM 9/6

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change (fwd)

2005-09-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 12:02 PM 9/6/2005, Wayne Cripps wrote: >A, but you see, I do all the work. That is, I delete >bad addresses from the list, check to be sure the spam filters >didn't catch anyone's valis message, do any necessary programming. >It was Rob's idea, and he rounded up members, but the day to >day

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
'Early Guitar' please Wayne, otherwise we might find people reluctant to put anything on except baroque guitar. Martyn Wayne Cripps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi folks - There is currently a discussion on the lute list concerning Beethoven and Giuliani which really has nothing to do with l

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change (fwd)

2005-09-06 Thread Wayne Cripps
> From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > At 11:49 AM 9/6/2005, Wayne Cripps wrote: > >So I know a bit about lutes, but I have no clues about anything about > >baroque guitars and early romantic guitars. That means that I would > >not be in any kind of position to suggest that postings

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
> Anyone else want to start an early romantic guitar list? I am > afraid that my system is not set up to let another person > work in a list. It is not manager-friendly. > > > Wayne The easiest thing is to start a new romantic guitar community on http://livejournal.com RT _

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:49 AM 9/6/2005, Wayne Cripps wrote: >So I know a bit about lutes, but I have no clues about anything about >baroque guitars and early romantic guitars. That means that I would >not be in any kind of position to suggest that postings were not >appropriate, etc. > > Anyone else want to start

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Wayne Cripps
> From: Lex Eisenhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > There used to be the CGH-list, moderated (indirectly) by Matanya Ophee. > There used to be a lot of traffic. After a Big Bang the list died. I even > never unsubscribed. I'm afraid a new Romantic Guitar list will become a > battlefield. I don't wan

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:40 AM 9/6/2005, Fossum, Arthur wrote: >As far as lists for CG there are two yahoo lists, there is the cg-hist >list, the Eskimo list. All of these could cover 19th century performing >practice etc. All these could...but don't. I am on several guitar forums and serve as a moderator of one.

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Fossum, Arthur
TED]; vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change At 11:12 AM 9/6/2005, Fossum, Arthur wrote: >Let's call it [CHARANGO] :)... >I vote to keep it [VIHUELA]. There are plenty of other lists for >Guitar, where Sor and Giuliani are more on topic. >So far I feel the l

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
> Let's call it [CHARANGO] :)... > I vote to keep it [VIHUELA]. Seconded. RT > There are plenty of other lists for > Guitar, where Sor and Giuliani are more on topic. > So far I feel the list is doing great and usually can't wait to get home > from work to play through all the examples... > >

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 11:12 AM 9/6/2005, Fossum, Arthur wrote: >Let's call it [CHARANGO] :)... >I vote to keep it [VIHUELA]. There are plenty of other lists for >Guitar, where Sor and Giuliani are more on topic. >So far I feel the list is doing great and usually can't wait to get home >from work to play through all

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread s.walsh
> I have no way of knowing, but I suspect a list to explicitly include guitar > into the 19th c. will not attract too many more than the list named > "vihuela" has already. Where you find numbers of guitarists, in the ranks > of amateur modern classical guitarists, they seem to have precious l

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:46 AM 9/6/2005, Lex Eisenhardt wrote: >I vote for Baroque guitar. Early guitar could even be Villa-Lobos on gut >strings. >Lex Frankly, if somebody does have interest in gut-strung guitars into the early 20th c., there aren't many, if any, electronic forums to address it. The world is fu

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:38 AM 9/6/2005, Wayne Cripps wrote: > For my part, I am near to the limit of mail lists >that I can manage. I have this fear that if I start an >EARLY-GUITAR list that it will soon get many subscribers and >take too much time and energy to manage. But I don't really >know how many people

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
Or BIGUELA, as a compromise. RT > I vote for Baroque guitar. Early guitar could even be Villa-Lobos on gut > strings. > Lex > > > > > > > Hi folks - > > > > There is currently a discussion on the lute list > > concerning Beethoven and Giuliani which really has nothing > > to do with lutes. I

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
> Since you folks are all charter members, I would like > to put this before you. Do you think EARLY-GUITAR is > appropriate, or would you rather limit it to maybe > BAROQUE-GUITAR and let the early-romantic types > find their own outlet? AbsoLUTEly. We travelled far to get away from Biedermeier

[VIHUELA] Re: proposed name change

2005-09-06 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
I vote for Baroque guitar. Early guitar could even be Villa-Lobos on gut strings. Lex > > Hi folks - > > There is currently a discussion on the lute list > concerning Beethoven and Giuliani which really has nothing > to do with lutes. I would like to move the discussion to this > list, the V