[VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar

2008-09-16 Thread Rob MacKillop
I would call that a theorboed guitar... Rob 2008/9/17 Michael Gillespie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archguitar... [1][2]http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1270/1387376248_33e9ce89f4.jpg? v=0 -- References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/12

[VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar

2008-09-16 Thread Michael Gillespie
Archguitar... [1]http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1270/1387376248_33e9ce89f4.jpg?v=0 On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The instrument and its maker are now flying back to Germany. Wolfgang tells me the instrument is on sale but

[VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar

2008-09-14 Thread Rob MacKillop
The instrument and its maker are now flying back to Germany. Wolfgang tells me the instrument is on sale but will not appear on his website for a couple of moths - the guy who does his website for him is too busy. So if you are interested, you can still get in touch with him via emai

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2008-09-11 Thread Stuart Walsh
Stuart Walsh wrote: OK, here is the video: [1]http://tinyurl.com/5cgkdv The instrument will be back in Germany on Sunday, and on sale. Wolfgang's website: Great use of video, Rob - especially the 'deep focus' when you tilt the upper pegboard ( mean 'pegbox!) at the camera. I

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2008-09-11 Thread Rob MacKillop
I've placed a pdf of the scores here: [1]http://www.rmguitar.info/temp.htm Rob 2008/9/11 Michael Gillespie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What kind of notation are you reading? Are the basses marked /a //a ///a 1,2,3 so on? -- References 1. http://www.rmguitar.info

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2008-09-11 Thread Michael Gillespie
What kind of notation are you reading? Are the basses marked /a //a ///a 1,2,3 so on? On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some people have reported problems with that link. If that's the case, go to [1][2]www.youtube.com and sea

[VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar

2008-09-11 Thread Rob MacKillop
Some people have reported problems with that link. If that's the case, go to [1]www.youtube.com and search for archguitar or Rob MacKillop. Rob 2008/9/11 Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OK, here is the video: [3]http://tinyurl.com/5cgkdv The instrument will be back in Germ

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2008-09-11 Thread Rob MacKillop
I've just noticed that immediately below the video on its right-hand side is a link - 'watch in high quality' - it really does make a difference. Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar

2008-09-11 Thread Rob MacKillop
OK, here is the video: [1]http://tinyurl.com/5cgkdv The instrument will be back in Germany on Sunday, and on sale. Wolfgang's website: [2]http://tinyurl.com/5dhbor I enjoyed playing it, but could have done with more time - the performances are FAR from perfect. Granata's mus

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2008-09-10 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
; > string (canto) >> > >> > Eighth string: This must be a guitar >>second >> > string >> > (sotanella) >> > >> > Ninth string: This must be the thickest possible >> > violin second string >> > (ca

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2008-09-10 Thread Monica Hall
- Original Message - > > From: "Martyn Hodgson" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Rob MacKillop" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "Vihuela" > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:21 PM > > Subject

[VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar

2008-09-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
> From: Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar > To: "David van Ooijen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008, 5:24 PM > David, > > I think (or thought) Rob said that his instrument was >

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2008-09-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
> > second > > > string > > > (sotanella) > > > > > > Ninth string: This must be the thickest > possible > > > violin second string > > > (canto) > > > > > > Tenth string: This must be a > violin >

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2008-09-10 Thread Monica Hall
- Original Message - From: "Monica Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rob MacKillop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar Gary Boye has included a transcription of the pieces in his disserta

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2008-09-10 Thread Monica Hall
uitar > > > > Yes, indeed, they would double some of the fingered strings > but that, I > think, is the point: you can play an open bass whilst > fingering a string > (even though the same open pitch) - the same advantage > indeed as the late Dm > lute of course ie not so

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2008-09-10 Thread Rob MacKillop
You were right to mention it, David. I just feared it would trigger a thread we have been over before. Cheers, Rob 2008/9/10 David van Ooijen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rob wrote: > We've been over the gut/string-length issue rather too many times here, for Sorry, apparent

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2008-09-10 Thread David van Ooijen
Rob wrote: > We've been over the gut/string-length issue rather too many times here, for Sorry, apparently I did miss something, indeed. I thought the question was whether low octaves were possible on the instrument and I had the impression you were stuck with high octaves against your wish witho

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2008-09-10 Thread Rob MacKillop
We've been over the gut/string-length issue rather too many times here, for me at least, but feel free to hack it out again if you so wish, gentlemen. I'm more interested in WHY anyone would go to the trouble of adding all those extra strings at the upper octave? There is only one ba

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2008-09-10 Thread David van Ooijen
>> basses would most likely have been of gut and, due to the relatively short string length, therefore at the higher octave. << Still figuring out the 'features' of gmail, so correct me if I missed something... String length of ca 116cm, single strings, plain gut, a'=440Hz You should be able to g

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2008-09-10 Thread Martyn Hodgson
" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "Vihuela" > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:21 PM > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: arch-guitar > > > > > > > > Yes, indeed, they would double some of the fingered > strings > > but that,

[VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar

2008-09-09 Thread Monica Hall
can't lay my hands on the paperwork at the present but will dig out in due course. Monica may know what I'm on about... Martyn --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: arch-gui

[VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar

2008-09-09 Thread Rob MacKillop
The basses would not necessarily have been gut, Martyn...but you might be right about the octaves. They would still work, musically, as bass lines. Can't see the point of it though. Maybe there was a difference between strings for the theorboed guitar shape and the archguitar lute sh

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2008-09-09 Thread Martyn Hodgson
gt; left hand. > > I mention all this because I recall an early source (may be > Strad's arch > guitar) gives higher octave stringing (I can't lay my > hands on the paperwork > at the present but will dig out in due course. > > Monica may know what I'm on a

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2008-09-09 Thread Monica Hall
present but will dig out in due course. Monica may know what I'm on about... Martyn --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Vihuela" Dat

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2008-09-09 Thread Rob MacKillop
The string length of the basses is c.116cms. I say 'circa' because I couldn't find a tape measure, so ended up using a six-inch ruler... The Granata Sarbande and Corrente do not have passages that would suggest anything other than GFEDCBA. In the tuning you mention, Martyn, (gfedcBA

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2008-09-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
It has diapasons on the fourth and fifth, on the finger side, high octave on the thumb side. Then it has single bass strings descending from G to low A, then it leaps up for a g# and an f#. I don't know if it 'works for me' - not sure what that means. Seems to fit the music by Grana

[VIHUELA] Re: arch-guitar

2008-09-08 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Rob, Are the basses at the upper octave and does this work for you? Martyn --- On Sun, 7/9/08, Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Rob MacKillop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [VIHUELA] arch-guitar > To: "Vihuela" > Date: Sunday, 7 September, 2008, 11:23 PM > Just received the ar