Re: insert-mode :map-alt-keys and 8-bit locales

2006-10-22 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Alexey Froloff wrote: * Alexey I. Froloff raorn@ [061021 17:53]: Vim should _support_ Meta-Sends-Escape mode which is A Must Have for non-ascii 8-bit locales Patch attached. New option - 'eightbitmeta' ('em'), default on. If unset, two things happen: 1. M-x is stored internaly as

Re: insert-mode :map-alt-keys and 8-bit locales

2006-10-22 Thread Alexey I. Froloff
* Bram Moolenaar Bram@ [061022 14:27]: How do you distinguish between someone typing Esc key and Esc key generated by Alt+key? I don't. No program can do that, as Tony mentioned earlier. bash (readline) for example: M-b - backward-word Alt+b and Escb works both the same, if Alt+Key sends

Re: insert-mode :map-alt-keys and 8-bit locales

2006-10-22 Thread Alexey I. Froloff
* Bram Moolenaar Bram@ [061022 17:41]: I don't want to support that, because it causes mistakes. Consider being in Insert mode and typing Esc o to open a new line or Esc n to find the next match. A timeout won't help, the two keys can be typed within ten msec. So, all plugins that imap

Re: insert-mode :map-alt-keys and 8-bit locales

2006-10-22 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Alexey I. Froloff wrote: * Bram Moolenaar Bram@ [061022 14:27]: How do you distinguish between someone typing Esc key and Esc key generated by Alt+key? I don't. No program can do that, as Tony mentioned earlier. bash (readline) for example: M-b - backward-word Alt+b and Escb works both the

Vim charity: Drought continues

2006-10-22 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Greetings, Vim users. If you don't care about helping needy children in Uganda, which is Vim's charity, then skip this message. As mentioned before, the area of Kibaale has been suffering from a drought for several months now. Here is an update from Jackie Ammeter that I received today: The

Undo/modified bug

2006-10-22 Thread Christian J. Robinson
Sometimes when I make a modification, write the file, then make a couple more modifications, write the file again, and finally repeatedly undo back to the state the file was in at the first write--without writing again--vim will report the file as not modified. I've tried very hard to find a way

Re: Undo/modified bug

2006-10-22 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Christian J. Robinson wrote: Sometimes when I make a modification, write the file, then make a couple more modifications, write the file again, and finally repeatedly undo back to the state the file was in at the first write--without writing again--vim will report the file as not modified.

Re: insert-mode :map-alt-keys and 8-bit locales

2006-10-22 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Ilya Sher wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: Alexey I. Froloff wrote: * Bram Moolenaar Bram@ [061022 17:41]: I don't want to support that, because it causes mistakes. Consider being in Insert mode and typing Esc o to open a new line or Esc n to find the next match. A timeout won't help, the two

Re: insert-mode :map-alt-keys and 8-bit locales

2006-10-22 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Alexey I. Froloff wrote: [...] P.S. Please, don't tell me that I should not use M-x in insert-mode mappings, tell this to script maintainers. latexSuite for example. If you have a problem with the Latex-Suite, then IMHO you should mention that, and it would do no harm to add the Latex-Suite

Re: insert-mode :map-alt-keys and 8-bit locales

2006-10-22 Thread Alexey I. Froloff
* A.J.Mechelynck antoine.mechelynck@ [061022 22:41]: - Maybe Bram Moolenaar can type at 100 keystrokes / second, I can't. [..skip..] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=vim-devm=116133874121615w=2 Please, read this. Twice. I can't enter CYRILLIC CAPITAL I if I have imap on M-i. - There is