Re: "collaborative editing" clarification Was: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-02-04 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Yakov Lerner wrote: > Hello Bram, > You wrote: > > add collaborative editing: changes made to a buffer show up in another Vim > in a second > > I'd like to ask for some clarifications. Clarification about > perceived behaviour, not about implementation: > > 1. "two-way collaboration" or "one-

Re: "collaborative editing" clarification Was: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-02-04 Fir de Conversatie Richard Hartmann
On Feb 4, 2008 6:19 AM, Yakov Lerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to ask for some clarifications. Clarification about > perceived behaviour, not about implementation: Assuming you want both Bram's and community feedback, here goes: > 1. "two-way collaboration" or "one-way collaborat

"collaborative editing" clarification Was: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-02-03 Fir de Conversatie Yakov Lerner
Hello Bram, You wrote: > add collaborative editing: changes made to a buffer show up in another Vim in a second I'd like to ask for some clarifications. Clarification about perceived behaviour, not about implementation: 1. "two-way collaboration" or "one-way collaboration" ? Vim instance B atta

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-20 Fir de Conversatie Nico Weber
> Is this close enough? > :command BDP bp | bd # > :command BDN bn | bd # Yes. Thanks :-) Nico --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message from the "vim_dev" maillist. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php -~--~~~~---

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-19 Fir de Conversatie sc
On Saturday 19 January 2008 22:30, Matt Wozniski wrote: > On Jan 19, 2008 7:36 PM, Nico Weber wrote: > > >> Is this becoming a wishlist ? > > >> > > >> :b[dw][np] -- Delete/Wipe buffer and open > > >> : next/previous one w/o > > >> > > >> closing any > > >> tabs/windows > > >

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-19 Fir de Conversatie Matt Wozniski
On Jan 19, 2008 7:36 PM, Nico Weber wrote: > > >> Is this becoming a wishlist ? > >> > >> :b[dw][np] -- Delete/Wipe buffer and open next/previous one > >> : w/o > >> > >> closing any > >> tabs/windows > > > > that's something i've wished for too -- i always figured it > > was

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-19 Fir de Conversatie Nico Weber
>> Is this becoming a wishlist ? >> >> :b[dw][np] -- Delete/Wipe buffer and open next/previous one >> : w/o >> >> closing any >> tabs/windows > > that's something i've wished for too -- i always figured it > was my ignorance preventing me from deleting buffers without > closin

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-19 Fir de Conversatie ap
On Jan 20, 12:02 am, Tony Mechelynck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ap wrote: > > On Jan 17, 10:07 pm, Mikolaj Machowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > >> I'd like to see something simpler(?): better command line completion of > >> built-in commands. You can script user defined commands as y

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-19 Fir de Conversatie ap
On Jan 19, 11:32 pm, sc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 19 January 2008 16:07, ap wrote: > > > > > On Jan 17, 10:07 pm, Mikolaj Machowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Dnia Thursday 17 of January 2008, Bram Moolenaar napisał: > > > > Hello Vim users, > > > > > I have added two item

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-19 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
ap wrote: > On Jan 17, 10:07 pm, Mikolaj Machowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >> I'd like to see something simpler(?): better command line completion of >> built-in commands. You can script user defined commands as you wish to >> perform all magic but completion of many built-in commands is

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-19 Fir de Conversatie sc
On Saturday 19 January 2008 16:07, ap wrote: > On Jan 17, 10:07 pm, Mikolaj Machowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dnia Thursday 17 of January 2008, Bram Moolenaar napisał: > > > Hello Vim users, > > > > > > I have added two items to vote on: > > > > > > - add collaborative editing: changes mad

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-19 Fir de Conversatie ap
On Jan 17, 10:07 pm, Mikolaj Machowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dnia Thursday 17 of January 2008, Bram Moolenaar napisał: > > > Hello Vim users, > > > I have added two items to vote on: > > > - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another > > Vim in a second > > - a

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-19 Fir de Conversatie Mikolaj Machowski
Dnia Saturday 19 of January 2008, Ben Schmidt napisał: > Tony Mechelynck wrote: > > Mikolaj Machowski wrote: > >> Dnia Thursday 17 of January 2008, Bram Moolenaar napisał: > >>> Hello Vim users, > >>> > >>> I have added two items to vote on: > >>> > >>> - add collaborative editing: changes made to

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-17 Fir de Conversatie Ben Schmidt
Tony Mechelynck wrote: > Mikolaj Machowski wrote: >> Dnia Thursday 17 of January 2008, Bram Moolenaar napisał: >>> Hello Vim users, >>> >>> I have added two items to vote on: >>> >>> - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another >>> Vim in a second >>> - add flexible tab

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-17 Fir de Conversatie Tony Mechelynck
Mikolaj Machowski wrote: > Dnia Thursday 17 of January 2008, Bram Moolenaar napisał: >> Hello Vim users, >> >> I have added two items to vote on: >> >> - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another >> Vim in a second >> - add flexible tab stops, can be used for tables >>

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-17 Fir de Conversatie Mikolaj Machowski
Dnia Thursday 17 of January 2008, Bram Moolenaar napisał: > Hello Vim users, > > I have added two items to vote on: > > - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another > Vim in a second > - add flexible tab stops, can be used for tables > I'd like to see something simpler

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Dasn
On 16/01/08 14:41 +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote: > >> - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another >> Vim in a second > >Unless this is done in full, screen -x is probably better suited. I have to >agree that this would be great for mentoring people, though. And yes, I

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Mark Waggoner
On Jan 16, 2008 1:15 PM, Ben Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> - add flexible tab stops, can be used for tables > >> Bram, do you mean Matthew Winn's patch? It would be super! I hope that > as it > >> works, the amount of work to push it to production state will be small > and this > >> f

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Charles E Campbell Jr
Matthew Winn wrote: >(snip) >Also, it uses the same tabstops over an entire file. An extended idea >is to find some way of specifying different tab widths at different >parts of the same file, but that means a heap of empty cans and worms >all over the place. > > > You'd probably need to use so

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Ben Schmidt
>>> - add flexible tab stops, can be used for tables >> Bram, do you mean Matthew Winn's patch? It would be super! I hope that as it >> works, the amount of work to push it to production state will be small and >> this >> feature will be be included in vim even without any extra votes ;-) > > It

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Ben Schmidt
krischik wrote: >> for me, just the ability to make a diff between current buffer and the >> corresponding file on the disk would be suficient. (and add it as a next item >> to a dialog "File was modified externaly: [O]K, [L]oad the file...[S]how >> diff") > > Yes! that would be a great enhancem

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Richard Hartmann
On Jan 15, 2008 9:55 PM, Bram Moolenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another > Vim in a second Unless this is done in full, screen -x is probably better suited. I have to agree that this would be great for mentoring people, though

RE: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -Original Message- > From: vim_dev@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Matthew Winn > Sent: 16 January 2008 13:55 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring > > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:46:46 +

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Matthew Winn
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:46:46 +0100, Milan Vancura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - add flexible tab stops, can be used for tables > > Bram, do you mean Matthew Winn's patch? It would be super! I hope that as it > works, the amount of work to push it to production state will be small and > this

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie krischik
> for me, just the ability to make a diff between current buffer and the > corresponding file on the disk would be suficient. (and add it as a next item > to a dialog "File was modified externaly: [O]K, [L]oad the file...[S]how > diff") Yes! that would be a great enhancement! Martin --~--~-

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Ingo Karkat
On 16-Jan-08 11:46, Milan Vancura wrote: > for me, just the ability to make a diff between current buffer and the > corresponding file on the disk would be suficient. (and add it as a next item > to a dialog "File was modified externaly: [O]K, [L]oad the file...[S]how > diff") > > Milan Vancura

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Milan Vancura
> - add flexible tab stops, can be used for tables Bram, do you mean Matthew Winn's patch? It would be super! I hope that as it works, the amount of work to push it to production state will be small and this feature will be be included in vim even without any extra votes ;-) > - add collaborativ

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie krischik
On 15 Jan., 21:55, Bram Moolenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Vim users, > > I have added two items to vote on: > > - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another > Vim in a second > - add flexible tab stops, can be used for tables Now I wonder why so may of you v

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Diwaker Gupta
> Is there some existing open source project that can be leveraged to > solve a lot of these problems? Or some Google project? IMHO Gobby is one of the best out there: free, open source, real time collaboration: http://gobby.0x539.de Diwaker -- http://floatingsun.net/ --~--~-~--~~-

RE: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-16 Fir de Conversatie Zdenek Sekera
> -Original Message- > From: vim_dev@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Charles E. Campbell, Jr. > Sent: 16 January 2008 05:04 > To: vim_dev@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring > > > I think it

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-15 Fir de Conversatie Charles E. Campbell, Jr.
I think it'd be a small thing -- but only Bram knows for sure. I'd like Decho (from my debugging plugin) to be able to report what line/file/function it was called from so I can relate Decho output to where it was generated. Something like the following would do the trick: v:call_line -- woul

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-15 Fir de Conversatie Gary Johnson
On 2008-01-16, Ben Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Not sure about the "over the web" part. This won't be easy to > >>> implement > >>> locally anyway. > > > > What would this be good for if it works only locally then? > > I'm sure locally includes ssh sessions which can provide > acr

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-15 Fir de Conversatie Ben Schmidt
>>> Not sure about the "over the web" part. This won't be easy to >>> implement >>> locally anyway. > > What would this be good for if it works only locally then? I'm sure locally includes ssh sessions which can provide across-the-web functionality. Just have to have two people logged into t

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-15 Fir de Conversatie Nico Weber
>>> Do you mean "changes to a file" (ie. contents are only synced on >>> file >>> write) or do you mean "changes to a buffer" (ie collaborative real- >>> time editing over the web)? >> >> You are right, it should be "buffer". I'll change it. >> >> Not sure about the "over the web" part. This w

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-15 Fir de Conversatie George V. Reilly
On 15/01/2008, Bram Moolenaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nico Weber wrote: > > > > - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another > > > Vim in a second > > > > Do you mean "changes to a file" (ie. contents are only synced on file > > write) or do you mean "changes to a b

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-15 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Nico Weber wrote: > > - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another > > Vim in a second > > Do you mean "changes to a file" (ie. contents are only synced on file > write) or do you mean "changes to a buffer" (ie collaborative real- > time editing over the web)? You

Re: New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-15 Fir de Conversatie Nico Weber
> - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another > Vim in a second Do you mean "changes to a file" (ie. contents are only synced on file write) or do you mean "changes to a buffer" (ie collaborative real- time editing over the web)? Thanks, Nico --~--~-~--~-

New features to vote on and sponsoring

2008-01-15 Fir de Conversatie Bram Moolenaar
Hello Vim users, I have added two items to vote on: - add collaborative editing: changes made to a file show up in another Vim in a second - add flexible tab stops, can be used for tables Registered users and sponsors can change their votes. See this page for info: http://www.vim.org/sponso