On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Tony Mechelynck wrote:
>
> On 19/11/08 18:11, Tom Link wrote:
> >> (LISP(Lost (In) (Stupid) (Parentheses)) =)
> >
> > Come on folks. The elisp dialect is a pretty old one that AFAIK hasn't
> > undergone any major changes for years. Nevertheless it's suitable to
> > do all so
As I thinks there is no full alternative to vim.
I tried a lof of editors. No one of them have such feautres like have
vim.
May be in the future it will be geany [0], but at this moment geany is
lacks vs vim.
About emacs. I don't like lisp syntax and emacs keybindings.
[0] http://www.geany.org/
Tony Mechelynck (2008-11-20 05:15 +0100) wrote:
> On 19/11/08 18:11, Tom Link wrote:
>> parentheses rock.
> parentheses suck.
Parentheses make it easy to see code in hierarchically structured units,
even the smallest parts. It's also easy to evaluate any such unit
interactively.
(function1
On 19/11/08 18:11, Tom Link wrote:
>> (LISP(Lost (In) (Stupid) (Parentheses)) =)
>
> Come on folks. The elisp dialect is a pretty old one that AFAIK hasn't
> undergone any major changes for years. Nevertheless it's suitable to
> do all sorts of things and it is quite stable.
>
> elisp's weak spot
> (LISP(Lost (In) (Stupid) (Parentheses)) =)
Come on folks. The elisp dialect is a pretty old one that AFAIK hasn't
undergone any major changes for years. Nevertheless it's suitable to
do all sorts of things and it is quite stable.
elisp's weak spot is its dynamic binding. Otherwise it's cool an
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Tony Mechelynck
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>
>
> Any kind of LISP is cool? Not for me. Refrigerating maybe. If you want
> Polish notation, give me FORTH. But in most cases a structured language
> like Vimscript is just what I need.
>
I guess I meant 'intellectually
> Any kind of LISP is cool? Not for me. Refrigerating maybe. If
> you want
> Polish notation, give me FORTH. But in most cases a
> structured language
> like Vimscript is just what I need.
(LISP(Lost (In) (Stupid) (Parentheses)) =)
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On 18/11/08 11:22, Efraim Yawitz wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Xulxer<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> perhaps someone is interested in the good features of the other great
>> editor:
>>
>> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2008/10/from_Vim_to_Emacs_-_part_1/
>>
>> http://upsi
Matthew Winn (2008-11-18 19:49 +) wrote:
> I tried Emacs and gave up on it because it required the use of ^S and
> ^Q, which on the hardware I was using were reserved for flow control.
> The "help" Emacs offered was "get different hardware". I decided I
> wanted nothing to do with software th
On Nov 18, 2:49 pm, Matthew Winn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, I have a certain amount of distaste for anything associated with
> Richard Stallman.
So what do you think about GPL'd software?
Thomas
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:35:43 +0100, Tony Mechelynck
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> I tried Emacs a couple of times, among other things because there's so
> much hype about it in the help for the "info" program. Never could make
> head or tail of it.
I tried Emacs and gave up on it because it req
> Looks very similar to Agide...
indeed, it's the same spirit but IMHO not as slick
Francois
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> Pida is not an usual IDE like Eclipse, Netbeans, etc ...
>
> Pida is lightweight, fast, easy to use and highly configurable with plugins
> You use what you want to use, point.
Looks very similar to Agide...
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2008/11/18 François Beaubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> So to say, I would like to have the look of "gedit" and the feel of
>> "Vim" ;)))
>
> So have a look at Pida you won't be disappointed:
>
> http://pida.co.uk/
>
> It's in heavy devlopment and soon a 0.6 release will be available
> Most of the
2008/11/18 A. S. Budden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Certainly looks very good: as soon as it works (and is easy to
> install) on both Linux & Windows, I may well start using this more
> actively.
A windows version is on the way ...
Best is to ask the developers on the mailing list or on irc
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Pida is not an usual IDE like Eclipse, Netbeans, etc ...
Pida is lightweight, fast, easy to use and highly configurable with plugins
You use what you want to use, point.
Try it ...
And if you want to be on the bleeding edge have a look at the dev
version which will be the 0.6:
hg clone http://p
Saluton François :)
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:30:46 +0100, François Beaubert dixit:
> > So to say, I would like to have the look of "gedit" and the feel of
> > "Vim" ;)))
>
> So have a look at Pida you won't be disappointed:
>
> http://pida.co.uk/
Usually I don't like IDE's (I prefer to do things
> So to say, I would like to have the look of "gedit" and the feel of
> "Vim" ;)))
So have a look at Pida you won't be disappointed:
http://pida.co.uk/
It's in heavy devlopment and soon a 0.6 release will be available
Most of the developers are on irc: #pida
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On Nov 18, 11:22 am, "Efraim Yawitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Xulxer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I could see using Emacs with viper mode
This was what I did for many years. (Standard emacs causes
carpal tunnel syndrome in me, so it is out of the question.)
Saluton Teemu :)
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:30:30 +0200, Teemu Likonen dixit:
> A. S. Budden (2008-11-18 07:58 +) wrote:
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> > 2008/11/18 StarWing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> that's true. i just want a debuger with Vim.
> >
> > Me too... I don't see me changing to emacs any time soon (my hands
A. S. Budden (2008-11-18 07:58 +) wrote:
> 2008/11/18 StarWing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> that's true. i just want a debuger with Vim.
>
> Me too... I don't see me changing to emacs any time soon (my hands
> aren't dextrous enough to cope with alt-ctrl-shift-etc), but I do wish
> there was m
Efraim Yawitz (2008-11-18 12:22 +0200) wrote:
>> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2008/11/from_Vim_to_Emacs_-_part_2/
> The main thing I think this blog post missed is the fact that we
> vi/vim fans think that modality is the whole point (not a drawback, as
> he seems to imply)!
You are wrong
2008/11/18 Efraim Yawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Xulxer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> perhaps someone is interested in the good features of the other great
>> editor:
>>
>> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2008/10/from_Vim_to_Emacs_-_part_1/
>>
>>
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Xulxer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> perhaps someone is interested in the good features of the other great
> editor:
>
> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2008/10/from_Vim_to_Emacs_-_part_1/
>
> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2008/11/from_Vim_to_Emac
2008/11/18 StarWing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> because a firm choice in Vim is to ... (OK, I confess, I'm starting to beat
>> a dead horse) ... not have support for interaction with external processes.
>
> that's true. i just want a debuger with Vim.
Me too... I don't see me changing to emacs
> > from my .profile:
> > alias emacs="echo haha, no emacs for you\!; sleep 2; vi $@"
>
> Better hope they don't know "which"...
Sorry to clog up the list with silliness, but it's possible my solution
to this problem will be of help to people ;)
---
alias which="~/which"
> because a firm choice in Vim is to ... (OK, I confess, I'm starting to beat a
> dead horse) ... not have support for interaction with external processes.
that's true. i just want a debuger with Vim.
On 11月18日, 上午10时35分, Tony Mechelynck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On 17/11/08 10:16, Xulxe
On 17/11/08 10:16, Xulxer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> perhaps someone is interested in the good features of the other great
> editor:
What good features?
I tried Emacs a couple of times, among other things because there's so
much hype about it in the help for the "info" program. Never could make
head or
Better hope they don't know "which"...
On Nov 17, 6:21 pm, Joseph Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> from my .profile:
>
> alias emacs="echo haha, no emacs for you\!; sleep 2; vi $@"
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> Doesn't look like "good features of the other great editor" are
> mentioned.
The discussion of such posts should probably be kept to reddit/digg
etc. I especially liked this sentence: "I think that nowadays Emacs is
ready to be switching to". Finally. :-)
One thing he mentions is management of
>Doesn't look like "good features of the other great editor" are
>mentioned. Just complaints about vim.
And most of the items mentioned (spellcheck, IDEs, etc.) I don't even
use, nor would particularly want. Hey, if I see an error on line 35 of
file 'fooey.c', I'll edit 'fooey.c' and '35G'. B
Xulxer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> perhaps someone is interested in the good features of the other great
> editor:
>
> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2008/10/from_Vim_to_Emacs_-_part_1/
>
> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/blog/posts/2008/11/from_Vim_to_Emacs_-_part_2/
>
Doesn't look like "good features of the
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