On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 07:40, Marty Fried ma...@leftcoast-usa.com wrote:
One thing to keep in mind is that the ASCII codes were not really meant to
be something that the user typed in, they were *control codes* for
controlling printing and display. But some of them were used by users
On 12/16/2011 05:57 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 16/12/11 13:42, Sven Guckesguc...@guckes.net wrote:
you will be assimilated. resistance is futile. hehe
I just commit the ultimate heresy use the arrow keys. Lead him away ;-)
I'll have to join you in the heretics prison. Not being a touch
On 12/16/2011 09:35 PM, Marty Fried wrote:
I have a slightly different theory... Ctrl-H is the ASCII backspace
character, so it was chosen for back. Ctrl-J is the linefeed character,
so it was chosen for down. Both of those match each other. The other
two just happen to be nearby, so they
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.netwrote:
On 12/16/2011 09:35 PM, Marty Fried wrote:
I have a slightly different theory... Ctrl-H is the ASCII backspace
character, so it was chosen for back. Ctrl-J is the linefeed character,
so it was chosen for down.
Al 16/12/11 14:34, En/na rameo ha escrit:
I just want to know why Vim developers (and other software) have
chosen the h j k l keys for left, down, up and right and not the j
k l ; keys?
I don't know the historycal reasons, but I can imagine the actual reason:
Not all keyboard layouts have
I just want to know why Vim developers (and other software) have
chosen the h j k l keys for left, down, up and right and not the j
k l ; keys?
I type with ten fingers and with touch typing, the right hand is on
the j k l ; keys.
To go to left I have to switch my forefinger from the j to the
h
* rameo rai...@gmail.com [2011-12-16 14:35]:
I just want to know why Vim developers (and other
software) have chosen the h j k l keys for left,
down, up and right and not the j k l ; keys?
because. this happened long before vim -
when it has been vi. so.. around 1976. Oh, Joy!
http
Sven Guckes, Fri 2011-12-16 @ 14:42:05+0100:
because. this happened long before vim -
when it has been vi. so.. around 1976. Oh, Joy!
If I remember correctly, Bill Joy's terminal had no cursor keys, but the
H, J, K, and L keys had arrows painted on them, hence the choice of
movement commands
On 16/12/11 13:42, Sven Guckes guc...@guckes.net wrote:
you will be assimilated. resistance is futile. hehe
I just commit the ultimate heresy use the arrow keys. Lead him away ;-)
Cheers,
Phil...
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On 2011-12-16T13:26:22, Taylor Hedberg wrote:
Sven Guckes, Fri 2011-12-16 @ 14:42:05+0100:
because. this happened long before vim -
when it has been vi. so.. around 1976. Oh, Joy!
If I remember correctly, Bill Joy's terminal had no cursor keys, but the
H, J, K, and L keys had arrows painted
On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Taylor Hedberg wrote:
Sven Guckes, Fri 2011-12-16 @ 14:42:05+0100:
because. this happened long before vim -
when it has been vi. so.. around 1976. Oh, Joy!
If I remember correctly, Bill Joy's terminal had no cursor keys, but the
H, J, K, and L keys had
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Kazuo Teramoto kaz@gmail.com wrote:
On 2011-12-16T13:26:22, Taylor Hedberg wrote:
Sven Guckes, Fri 2011-12-16 @ 14:42:05+0100:
because. this happened long before vim -
when it has been vi. so.. around 1976. Oh, Joy!
If I remember correctly, Bill
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 15:34, rameo rai...@gmail.com wrote:
I just want to know why Vim developers (and other software) have
chosen the h j k l keys for left, down, up and right and not the j
k l ; keys?
I type with ten fingers and with touch typing, the right hand is on
the j k l ; keys
On 16/12/11 14:34, rameo wrote:
[...]
I checked other national keyboards, they are almost all the same as
the US keyboard.
[...]
Almost… but not exactly, even if we don't count Dvorak keyboards, which
are vastly different.
English-language keyboards are QWERTY, French-language keyboards are
Maybe I should argue that, 30 years or so ago, Vi should have used jklm
instead of hjkl —
but I won't. At least the tails of j and k point in different directions.
Good luck with your arguing. :)
I have a slightly different theory... Ctrl-H is the ASCII backspace
character, so it was chosen
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