Re: Supid question about battery on Plus/SE

2009-06-09 Thread James Fraser
Hello, --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Christian Wacker wrote: > well I feel like a complete Arse... "The grouch" is just a > trashcan animation... I was just getting ready to ask you about that, as the name sounded awfully familiar. :) I haven't seen it in action in more than a decade, but anyone who

Re: Supid question about battery on Plus/SE

2009-06-09 Thread Susan Platter
I've never seen that before, despite using a Mac SE when they were new. I suppose it is the forerunner of that dreadful Microsoft paperclip... :D Regards Susan On 9 Jun 2009, at 09:46, James Fraser wrote: > > > Hello, > > --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Christian Wacker wrote: > >> well I feel like a c

Re: ADB --> DB-9 hack?

2009-06-09 Thread James Fraser
Hello, --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Scott Holder wrote: > The current project I see is dedicated > towards attaching various keyboards to other interfaces > (primarily to PS2, though there are some others thrown in) > > http://www.kbdbabel.org/ > > Of interest to this group would be the Mac 128k/512

Re: ADB --> DB-9 hack?

2009-06-09 Thread James Fraser
Hello, --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Iogear MiniView > > http://www.iogear.com/product/GCV160/ > > Converts PS/2 to ADB and also the video so you can connect > a Mac to a KVM that doesn't support ADB, or just use it to > connect PS/2 mouse and keyboard to a Mac. It's funny you

Re: ADB --> DB-9 hack?

2009-06-09 Thread James Fraser
Hello, --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Clark Martin wrote: > The Mac Plus and earlier mice use discrete signals (wires) > carrying the mouse click and encoding phases (two each) of the mouse X > & Y directions (as well as power and ground). ADB (Apple Desktop > Bus) transmits data bi-directionally on it'

6.0.5 or 6.0.8 for a Mac Plus?

2009-06-09 Thread tendim
I've got a Mac Plus with 4MB of RAM, and an external floppy. I'm currently using an HD with it, but would like to see if I can get it up and running with only floppies. So far, I've managed to get it up and running, with Internet access with: - System 6.0.8 minimum install - Asante EN/SC Driver

Re: Supid question about battery on Plus/SE

2009-06-09 Thread Christian Wacker
I would love to send it off, I'll see if i can make it a .sit file or something so that it won't die on the way to my PC for emailing (I don't have my Mac collection online yet, still working on it) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Cyrus Griffin wrote: > > I remember that! We used to have the gro

RE: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Snook, John R
I think the all standard 90 deg. Power cables bend the same way, and cover the power switch on the compact Mac. If you gat a 30amp 90 deg. Power cable it will bend the other way. I've done that, worked fine. This is true in the USA. YMMV john -Original Message- From: vintage-macs@google

Re: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Cyrus Griffin
Really? That seems like it's backwards. I've seen promo pictures of the original Macintosh with the power cord angled downwards but maybe that's just staged? I'll try and find the one I'm thinking of. Elliott (Formerly Cyrus) Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost M

Re: Supid question about battery on Plus/SE

2009-06-09 Thread David Ryskalczyk
Yeah, that would be nice. I'll add it to the Macintosh Garden! --Dave On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Christian Wacker wrote: > > I would love to send it off, I'll see if i can make it a .sit file or > something so that it won't die on the way to my PC for emailing (I > don't have my Mac collect

Re: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Cyrus Griffin
This is what's confusing me: http://www.hobbittech.com/macoffice16.jpg From that picture, it seems like they should angle downwards... Mine looks pretty much like that, but sticks upwards. Anyone from that era remember which way the power cords went? Or were supposed to go? Elliott (Formerly

Re: Supid question about battery on Plus/SE

2009-06-09 Thread Cyrus Griffin
cool. That would be awesome to see that again! Lol I can remember it like when I was 5 or so... It made trashing stuff way too fun :) Elliott (Formerly Cyrus) Hobbittech.com Mac Specialist - Low Cost Mac Services in AZ On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:26 AM, Christian Wacker wrote

Re: IIFX 16MB SIMMs; Was: Re: Fast NuBus card for fx?

2009-06-09 Thread trag
On Jun 8, 10:24 am, Scott Holder wrote: > I don't know that I have the equipment to read a GAL, but I do have > something that might work. I'll drop an update once I get a chance to > figure it out. I don't even remember where I got the IIfx from > originally. Probably eBay. I have a chip pro

Re: IIFX 16MB SIMMs; Was: Re: Fast NuBus card for fx?

2009-06-09 Thread trag
On Jun 8, 5:39 pm, jack wrote: > Jeff... > > With all this talk about a group build (pros and cons), I thought I > would toss in my 2 cents. > > I do not mind paying in advance before the product gets going and off > the ground. You do need some start up money to get going. You sound like > a

Re: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Justin Pope
On 6/9/09, Cyrus Griffin wrote: > From that picture, it seems like they should angle downwards... Mine > looks pretty much like that, but sticks upwards. Anyone from that era > remember which way the power cords went? Or were supposed to go? For what it's worth... I'm not from that era, but at

RE: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Doug
Hmmm. My Mac Plus has its cord straight out the back. Which means you can use any comp. cord on it. Doug -Original Message- From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com [mailto:vintage-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cyrus Griffin Sent: June 9, 2009 7:49 AM To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com S

RE: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Snook, John R
OK Apple must have made those cords to work on the compact macs. That's why standard cords don't work. But, a 30 amp cord will work. john -Original Message- From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com [mailto:vintage-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Justin Pope Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:1

RE: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Doug McNutt
Have a look at the connector as mounted into the internal power supply module. Every Mac I have around here has the ground pin (the center of the three) on the left side as you look from the rear of the computer. It would be possible, on rebuilding a power module, to install the connector u

RE: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Snook, John R
Not with out a lot of work. john -Original Message- From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com [mailto:vintage-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug McNutt Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:34 AM To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Power cords?? Have a look at the connector as mou

Re: ADB --> DB-9 hack?

2009-06-09 Thread Clark Martin
James Fraser wrote: > > Hello, > > --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Clark Martin wrote: > >> The Mac Plus and earlier mice use discrete signals (wires) >> carrying the mouse click and encoding phases (two each) of the mouse X >> & Y directions (as well as power and ground). ADB (Apple Desktop >> Bus) tran

Re: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Clark Martin
Snook, John R wrote: > I think the all standard 90 deg. Power cables bend the same way, and cover > the power switch on the compact Mac. > If you gat a 30amp 90 deg. Power cable it will bend the other way. I've done > that, worked fine. > This is true in the USA. YMMV No, the 90 deg cable that

Re: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Clark Martin
Cyrus Griffin wrote: > This is what's confusing me: > http://www.hobbittech.com/macoffice16.jpg > From that picture, it seems like they should angle downwards... Mine > looks pretty much like that, but sticks upwards. Anyone from that era > remember which way the power cords went? Or were sup

Re: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Cyrus Griffin
Hmm... That's what I would have thought. That makes more sense. How rare are the bent-type Apple power cords? I don't see many around. Did they switch to the regular type power cord with the Plus? (Mine is a Platinum Plus, if that makes a difference) Elliott (Formerly Cyrus) ---

Re: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Christian Wacker
I think that the bent ones were\are designed so that you can push the Compact Macs up against the wall (there were probably smaller ADB cords and connector cords too) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Cyrus Griffin wrote: > > Hmm... That's what I would have thought. That makes more sense. How > rar

Re: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread gbadcock
Apple did sell oppositely angled power connectors, and at least one use of the unconventional cable in question was indeed in certain of the 'Espresso' design LaserWriters. More specifically, the Personal Laserwriter 300 and 4/600 require these oddly shaped power connectors, or else must be used w

Re: ADB --> DB-9 hack?

2009-06-09 Thread Scott Holder
James Fraser wrote: > Hello, > > --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Clark Martin wrote: > > >> The Mac Plus and earlier mice use discrete signals (wires) >> carrying the mouse click and encoding phases (two each) of the mouse X >> & Y directions (as well as power and ground). ADB (Apple Desktop >> Bus) tran

Re: ADB --> DB-9 hack?

2009-06-09 Thread Clark Martin
Scott Holder wrote: > The Mac Plus/etc mouse is a pretty dumb device generally speaking - the > sensors are wired straight into a 6522 which generated an interrupt > whenever the mouse moved a notch any direction and a line to sense the > button. Pretty simple design, but not very flexible. It

Re: ADB --> DB-9 hack?

2009-06-09 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Tue, 6/9/09, James Fraser wrote: > However, when I try to plug in > a PS/2 version of that same ADB mouse, (not concurrently) > the PS/2 mouse behaves from the get-go as though I'm holding > down the mouse button when I haven't touched it.  Yes, > it could theoretically be behaving that

Re: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Tue, 6/9/09, Cyrus Griffin wrote: > From: Cyrus Griffin > Subject: Re: Power cords?? > To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com > Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 7:40 AM > > Really? That seems like it's backwards. I've seen promo > pictures of  > the original Macintosh with the power cord angle

Re: Power cords??

2009-06-09 Thread Abel Ortiz Monasterio
One of my SE-30's has cable like the one in the picture. I'm assuming it is original but I am not sure altough it looks pretty old and it is not as thick as the new ones. I'm traveling so I'm not sure of which way it points. Abel 2009/6/9 Clark Martin > > Cyrus Griffin wrote: > > This is what