BTW It might also be cool to slim down 8.1 with this utility and see
how it runs on a SE/30 or IIci.
'030s won't run Mac OS 8 unless you hack the Gestalt IDs.
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the pickle wrote:
Cut about 16mb out of a existing 8.1 System folder using PowerPCheck.
How about RAM usage-wise?
Made a fresh copy.
Cut 14mb from the 8.1 system folder stripping both forks.
No saving Ram usage-wise.
Only the Appearance Extension and appletalk remain unchanged.
Using a
Bryan, the IIsi was notorious for it's inconsistent sound quality or lack of
sound for that matter. The best way to fix it was to ignore the built-in
speaker and just use external ones. I bought a cheap pair ($10) for mine,
plugged it into the head phone jacks on the back and the sound was fine
At 12:03 AM -0400, 10/15/02, (David A. Culler) observed:
Janet,
The concept is called 'Parallel Computing' and is accomplish by connecting
multiple machines in what is called an 'Apple Seed Cluster'.
proper software the individual computers, or nodes as they are called, are
snip
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From: Vintage Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Kris Jones
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:28 AM
To: Vintage Macs
Subject: Re: TCP/IP and System 7
BTW It might also be cool to slim down 8.1 with this utility and see
how it runs on a SE/30 or IIci.
At 00:28 -0500 on 15/10/02, Christopher Melita wrote:
its the one from the apple website older software downloads
Hrmmmthe 19-part one?
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just another thought... i've seen this happen on both an LC II and my LC
III... and i think its connected with the monitor getting old... my PC
monitor does it intermittently as well...
I have a screaming LC 580 and I was thinking the same thing, that it is the
monitor making all that noise.
At 09:02 -0700 on 15/10/02, l k m wrote:
The noise is so nerve-wracking, it renders the computer pretty much useless.
(OT, has anyone switched monitors from one all-in-one LC/Performa to
another?)
Probably won't help, actually - the whine is more likely a dying capacitor on
the analogue board
Hi everyone. This is not about a Mac, but it is about a vintage computer
with the multi-colored Apple logo that we all know and love.
I had a request come through on another e-mail list that I am on looking
for anyone out there that has a working Apple //. It seems that the model
railroad
I seem to recall that the IIsi ROM SIMM has some value -- how much do you
think it is worth?
Bryan Kattwinkel
The IIsi (or IIfx) ROM simm in an SE/30 makes it 32 bit clean and allows
the SE/30 to run 7.6.1, 8.0, or 8.1.
This is not a rumour. I've done it. With internal grayscale.
Gamba
I seem to recall that the IIsi ROM SIMM has some value -- how much do you
think it is worth?
Bryan Kattwinkel
The IIsi (or IIfx) ROM simm in an SE/30 makes it 32 bit clean and allows
the SE/30 to run 7.6.1, 8.0, or 8.1.
This is not a rumour. I've done it. With internal grayscale.
Wait,
Not by itself. Several of the XCeed cards, along with the external color
monitor port, also included a port for a replacement yoke that gave it
internal grayscale. Although both the card and the grayscale adapter are
quite rare, the adapter is nearly non existent. Fortunately, someone
managed to
Not by itself. Several of the XCeed cards, along with the external color
monitor port, also included a port for a replacement yoke that gave it
internal grayscale. Although both the card and the grayscale adapter are
quite rare, the adapter is nearly non existent. Fortunately, someone
yup :)
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Hey Tracy or anyone else out there who enjoyed the pre-Mac machines,
A friend of mine dug out his old Apple IIc, and he was wondering if it
can take a coloured monitor or is he stuck using the old green monochrome
monitor. BTW if it does take a coloured monitor what should he be looking
Apple I? :)
Scott
-Original Message-
From: Vintage Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
A.Tuazon
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:59 PM
To: Vintage Macs
Subject: Re: Not really a Mac, but pretty cool
Yeah, yeah yeah it's a bit OT but hey it's Apple and how much more
vintage
Yep... A color monitor should work fine. You can hook up up to a TV (
though you won't get the same quality you would from an RGB monitor) with an
RF converter from an Atari or NES system, or pick one up at RatShack for
pretty cheap.
I had both models of IIc...the IIc and the IIc+. The
Yes, it is true. All Apple computers were color capable. Of course, if your
Apple II is on a monochrome monitor like mine, it won't be.
-On the IIc:
I think the IIc has an RGB monitor port on the back (I know the GS does). If it
does, you should be able to use any Macintosh monitor with it. If
I've tried using dual hard drives on my Mac IIsi (Apple 40 MB and 80
MB). I switched the 2 port SCSI ribbon cable with a 3 port cable and
used a power splitter to provide 2 power ports for HDs. When I boot the
IIsi with both drives, however, it gives me the Startup Disk Not Found
flashing
They will definitely be set to ID0 if you haven't changed them, and that
would cause what you're seeing.
I'm blanking on where the jumpers are located, but it may be on one of
the ends.
Scott Holder
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From: Vintage Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Ian
Is it possible to get good speed from OS 8 on a 68030 (besides maybe a IIfx)
even after running PowerPCheck? And of course without emptying your wallet on
RAM to support it.
Gamba wrote:
From: Kris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'030s won't run Mac OS 8 unless you hack the Gestalt IDs.
Hacking
(Sorry there was a typing mistake on the subject line)
Ian Johnson wrote:
I've tried using dual hard drives on my Mac IIsi (Apple 40 MB and 80
MB). I switched the 2 port SCSI ribbon cable with a 3 port cable and
used a power splitter to provide 2 power ports for HDs. When I boot the
IIsi
It ran usably on a stock IIci. Once I put a 50mhz Diimo '030 in it, it
was more than usable and probably pretty comparable to my Duo 280c. The
nice Radius vid card I have in there helped too.
Scott Holder
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From: Vintage Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Ian
At 17:39 -0400 on 15/10/02, Ian Johnson wrote:
flashing question mark. The cables and splitter are fine, they work with
only on HD installed. Maybe the problem is both HDs set to SCSI ID 0,
but I don't see ID jumpers anywhere on the drives. Is there some kind of
They're there. Check again,
Original Message
Wednesday, October 9, 2002 2:05:07 AM
From: Martin A. Totusek
Subject: Re: Macintosh SE stuff sought
Martin A. Totusek posted in dBug Water Cooler:
A fellow named Joel {he is not online; no ISP or Email yet...} was
referred to me...
He has gotten an old
I have an external floppy and CD, but I need them for my IIsi. However, I
hope this info helps with the other topics:
6) Mac OS 6.0.8 (aka System 6.0.8) 800K Floppy Disks (as I found that
mine have now died after all these years), and does anyone have or know
how to make a bootable Mac OS 6.0.8
Ian Johnson wrote:
Is it possible to get good speed from OS 8 on a 68030 (besides maybe a IIfx)
even after running PowerPCheck? And of course without emptying your wallet on
RAM to support it.
Couldn't get decent speed out of a 475 with OS8.
No accelerator or video.
I think it falls under
Does anyone have for free or for not-to-expensive, or know where to get
in Seattle for free or for not-to-expensive :
1) An External APPLE Floppy Drive for Mac SE (MAKING SURE that it's the
one that can read 1.4 MB Floppy Disks; It was often called Apple
'Superdrive' Floppy Drive).
This will
At 18:00 -0400 on 15/10/02, Ian Johnson wrote:
b) Which external SCSI CD-R burners work with an SE and/or a CLASSIC?
None of them, because all the burning software requires an 030 or better.
I use the Apple CD-ROM and various file access extensions from CD-ROM
Software 5.0.2 (I got them off of
At 08:07 +1000 on 16/10/02, Darren wrote:
Ian Johnson wrote:
Is it possible to get good speed from OS 8 on a 68030 (besides maybe a IIfx)
even after running PowerPCheck? And of course without emptying your wallet on
RAM to support it.
Couldn't get decent speed out of a 475 with OS8.
No
At 00:10 +0200 on 16/10/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote:
Can a SE handle a 8x cd-romo well enough?
An SE won't care if you hook up anything faster than about a 2x drive because
its onboard SCSI is so slow.
5) 250 MB external SCSI Iomega Zip Drive (Does the Computer Store still
have these in
Ian Johnson wrote:
Is it possible to get good speed from OS 8 on a 68030 (besides maybe a IIfx)
even after running PowerPCheck? And of course without emptying
your wallet on
RAM to support it.
Couldn't get decent speed out of a 475 with OS8.
No accelerator or video.
I think it falls under
on 10/15/02 7:19 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
Some people have been able to swap them into an SE/30
so they could have a 32bit clean compact Mac able
to take full advantage of up to 128meg RAM.
Why is the IIsi ROM simm better than using Mode32?
(I have several SE/30's and use Mode32 on ones with
i deal in secondhand macs
i regulary see 520 - 580's all in one 68k macs get passed in at auctions
as no one bids on them if someone does bid they get bought for less than $5
simarley 5000 PPC series all in ones get passed in or bought for around $10
to $50. feature for feature it seems to me
At 18:20 -0400 on 15/10/02, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote:
on 10/15/02 7:19 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
Some people have been able to swap them into an SE/30
so they could have a 32bit clean compact Mac able
to take full advantage of up to 128meg RAM.
Why is the IIsi ROM simm better than using Mode32?
5) 250 MB external SCSI Iomega Zip Drive (Does the Computer Store still
have these in stock?).
I doubt these are compatible with the SE, the plus or the classic.
IIRC, they work OK with the 4.2 drivers - TC sent me some stuff about it for
the FAQ, I think - but they're not my first choice,
i deal in secondhand macs
i regulary see 520 - 580's all in one 68k macs get passed in at auctions
as no one bids on them if someone does bid they get bought for less than $5
simarley 5000 PPC series all in ones get passed in or bought for around $10
to $50. feature for feature it seems to me
Yes, it is true. All Apple computers were color capable. Of course, if your
Apple II is on a monochrome monitor like mine, it won't be.
-On the IIc:
I think the IIc has an RGB monitor port on the back (I know the GS does).
Actually it should have composite out too, if memory serves. There
What good hardware enhancements (RAM, VRAM, FPU, etc...) are available
for LC IIIs for cheap? I have one with the standard 4 MB of RAM and an
Apple 40 MB HD. Even with a default install of System 7.1, it's a bit
sluggish. I think it's because of its low RAM and lack of FPU; my IIsi
runs much
Not sure whether this is proper for this list but I'm hoping to find info on
this device which I acquired from a box of stuff that was going to the
trash:
I have what looks like a SCSI I/F box with model # H7M-1 listed along with a
permanent 25 pin SCSI cable and 25 pin termination connector.
Yes, early 68k computers are really cool (I really wish I had a 128K or 512K
Mac) but Joel would still probably be better served for what he wants to do with
an LC 520 or higher (580s are quite snappy despite their lack of FPU, even in
7.5). He could keep the SE as a cool secondary computer,
Probably won't help, actually - the whine is more likely a dying capacitor
on
the analogue board and/or the flyback transformer vibrating at very high
frequency. The latter might be fixed by inserting a piece of nonconductive
material into the loop of the flyback, but the former will require
Have you tried going to the drive mfg's site to see if you can find the
models you have. Most drive sites (i.e., Seagate, Maxtor, etc.) have great
info on drives, especially pinning.
mudbro
Ian Johnson says:
I've tried using dual hard drives on my Mac IIsi (Apple 40 MB and 80
MB). I
At 18:35 -0400 on 15/10/02, Ian Johnson wrote:
What good hardware enhancements (RAM, VRAM, FPU, etc...) are available
for LC IIIs for cheap? I have one with the standard 4 MB of RAM and an
FPUs aren't *too* hard to find, but their usefulness is rather questionable in
light of the fact that a
At 08:39 + on 16/10/02, Al wrote:
i regulary see 520 - 580's all in one 68k macs get passed in at auctions
as no one bids on them if someone does bid they get bought for less than $5
simarley 5000 PPC series all in ones get passed in or bought for around $10
to $50. feature for feature it
You mean an LC 475 motherboard will fit in an LC III case and has an FPU on it?
What speed?
the pickle wrote:
FPUs aren't *too* hard to find, but their usefulness is rather questionable in
light of the fact that a 475 motherboard drops in and costs much less than a
25MHz 68882 FPU would.
i know that Marten
but it helps if you have been well and truly bitten
by the mac bug to appreciate the early stuff
for the average user - especially a newbie user the all in one 575 etc.
seems to make more sense ... imho
Al
Marten van de Kraats wrote:
i deal in secondhand macs
i regulary
You mean an LC 475 motherboard will fit in an LC III case and has an
FPU on it?
What speed?
No. it doesn't have a fpu, but it does have a 68lc040 which is much
faster than your 68030.
Speed is 25 Mhz.
Marten
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i know that Marten
but it helps if you have been well and truly bitten
by the mac bug to appreciate the early stuff
for the average user - especially a newbie user the all in one 575 etc.
seems to make more sense ... imho
OK. I think I agree with you. But I agree with the pickle too...
These
5500/225's fetch about $70 ($40 usa dollars) at auction
that would be my value for dollar pick of the bunch
Al
the pickle wrote:
At 08:39 + on 16/10/02, Al wrote:
i regulary see 520 - 580's all in one 68k macs get passed in at auctions
as no one bids on them if someone does bid they
At 18:50 -0400 on 15/10/02, Ian Johnson wrote:
You mean an LC 475 motherboard will fit in an LC III case and has an FPU on it?
What speed?
25MHz, no FPU, but the 68LC040 is a lot faster even without the FPU on FPU-type
stuff.
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yup some of those 5000 series apples were really lemons ;)
Al
Marten van de Kraats wrote:
i know that Marten
but it helps if you have been well and truly bitten
by the mac bug to appreciate the early stuff
for the average user - especially a newbie user the all in one 575 etc.
seems to
On Tuesday, Oct 15, 2002, at 23:35 Europe/London, Ian Johnson wrote:
What good hardware enhancements (RAM, VRAM, FPU, etc...) are available
for LC IIIs for cheap? I have one with the standard 4 MB of RAM and an
Apple 40 MB HD. Even with a default install of System 7.1, it's a bit
sluggish. I
At 02:39 PM 10/15/2002, Ian Johnson typed thusly:
only on HD installed. Maybe the problem is both HDs set to SCSI ID 0,
but I don't see ID jumpers anywhere on the drives. Is there some kind of
Look on the bottom, two sets of three jumper pairs. You'll have ot check
online for how to
On Tuesday, Oct 15, 2002, at 23:48 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:
That's because the 5xxx PPCs mostly suck
The 5200 and 5300 (and derivatives of em) suck. The 5400 (if only
because Apple sold it on Black in Europe :) ) and 5500 are ok as they
are reasonably fast and have PCI. I've seen
On Tuesday, Oct 15, 2002, at 23:48 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:
That's because the 5xxx PPCs mostly suck
The 5200 and 5300 (and derivatives of em) suck. The 5400 (if only
because Apple sold it on Black in Europe :) ) and 5500 are ok as
they are reasonably fast and have PCI. I've seen 5500s
On 15/10/2002 15:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim McGee)
Not sure whether this is proper for this list but I'm hoping to find info on
this device which I acquired from a box of stuff that was going to the
trash:
Good as any, as you saved vintage Mac stuff from the
The RGB port on the IIC will NOT support a mac monitor without other
hardware. It won't even support the IIGS analog RGB monitors. The only use
for it I'm aware of was for the lcd screens made for the IIC at that time
(one made by Apple, one made by C-VUE). However, it will run just about any
Here's a little teaser of what the new FPM will look like. I like it -
I dunno about you :)
http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/fpm_teaser.jpg
I need to know if there are any problems with Tables support in old
browsers?
Any other comments are greatly appreciated to help make this site the
At 00:41 +0100 on 16/10/02, Mark Benson wrote:
I need to know if there are any problems with Tables support in old
browsers?
Lots of problems. As in most pre-2.x browsers don't support them at all, IIRC.
But Netscape/IE 2.x and up should be fine, as is iCab, and there's really no
compelling
On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 00:43 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:
At 00:41 +0100 on 16/10/02, Mark Benson wrote:
I need to know if there are any problems with Tables support in old
browsers?
Lots of problems. As in most pre-2.x browsers don't support them at
all, IIRC.
But
On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 00:15 Europe/London, Cameron Kaiser
wrote:
I'm even
using the LC top and the Q bottom, just to complete the image. :-)
They are interchangeable?? WOW!!! We could see my Q805 hack get bigger
on either side!!
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On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 00:30 Europe/London, Marten van de
Kraats wrote:
The black 5500 is pretty common on the continent. In the Netherlands
anyway...
Stick some in the boot of your car and come over for a weekend I bet I
could raise you a profit. Besides I want one (not like
Marten van de Kraats wrote:
Ian Johnson wrote:
Is it possible to get good speed from OS 8 on a 68030
Much depends on the speed of your internal hard disk and the amount
of ram. I have seen os 8 run quit decently on a lc 475 with 36 mb ram
and a fast hard disk.
How fast, the 36mb its
I'm even
using the LC top and the Q bottom, just to complete the image. :-)
They are interchangeable?? WOW!!! We could see my Q805 hack get bigger
on either side!!
The fit isn't perfect, no, but it's pretty good. I actually did this not
so much for laughs but because I was striking a
At 01:08 +0100 on 16/10/02, Mark Benson wrote:
On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 00:43 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:
At 00:41 +0100 on 16/10/02, Mark Benson wrote:
I need to know if there are any problems with Tables support in old
browsers?
Lots of problems. As in most pre-2.x browsers
On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 01:33 Europe/London, Cameron Kaiser
wrote:
I'm even
using the LC top and the Q bottom, just to complete the image. :-)
They are interchangeable?? WOW!!! We could see my Q805 hack get bigger
on either side!!
The fit isn't perfect, no, but it's pretty good.
On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 00:43 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:
At 00:41 +0100 on 16/10/02, Mark Benson wrote:
I need to know if there are any problems with Tables support in old
browsers?
Lots of problems. As in most pre-2.x browsers don't support them at
all, IIRC.
But
At 01:45 +0100 on 16/10/02, Mark Benson wrote:
http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/fpm2prev/
If someone would be so kind as to test the small version on their
compact mac I would be most grateful. Otherwise comments and
suggestions welcome.
Can't vouch for the HTML on a Compact, but it won't
I do have a network. My middle school had a lot of LC PDS Ethernet cards; I
wish I'd taken one along with my NuBus Ethernet Card...
How much less does an LC 475 motherboard cost than the whole thing? If the
price difference isn't much, it might be cool to just get a whole 475.
-About how much
On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 02:19 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:
At 01:45 +0100 on 16/10/02, Mark Benson wrote:
http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/fpm2prev/
If someone would be so kind as to test the small version on their
compact mac I would be most grateful. Otherwise comments and
I just like the look of people who think I'm nuts for using an LC III (never
mind the Commodore 128 sitting next to the 7300). Of course, the LC III
beats with the heart of a Q605, but who's counting?
way cool!
which makes me wonder if it would be possible to do the ultimate case
mod of a
At 21:26 -0400 on 15/10/02, Ian Johnson wrote:
I do have a network. My middle school had a lot of LC PDS Ethernet cards; I
wish I'd taken one along with my NuBus Ethernet Card...
How much less does an LC 475 motherboard cost than the whole thing? If the
Not much.
-About how much would that
At 02:31 +0100 on 16/10/02, Mark Benson wrote:
Hrmm, it all gets a bit restricted if you do that, i mean look at the
small screen page now - it's a bit less striking all round, also older
ppl with high-res screens might have difficulty reading the small
version ;).
The only difference I see
At 02:35 +0100 on 16/10/02, /dev/null wrote:
which makes me wonder if it would be possible to do the ultimate case
mod of a G4 cube's guts inside a Mac Classic?...
Not a Classic, but close...
http://www.mac512.com/ccpmg4.htm
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No, I don't really have a compelling reason to use OS 8, I have an iMac to play
around on modern Mac Os's with. I'm perfectly satisfied with 7.1 as far as 68k
Macs go. Just curious, since I've heard a lot of talk about OS 8 on '030s.
Darren wrote:
Marten van de Kraats wrote:
Ian Johnson
which makes me wonder if it would be possible to do the ultimate case
mod of a G4 cube's guts inside a Mac Classic?...
Not a Classic, but close...
http://www.mac512.com/ccpmg4.htm
oh, very nice indeed :-
there's something quite stylish about this kinda computing ;-)...
you
At 21:44 -0400 on 15/10/02, Ian Johnson wrote:
No, I don't really have a compelling reason to use OS 8, I have an iMac to play
around on modern Mac Os's with. I'm perfectly satisfied with 7.1 as far as 68k
Macs go. Just curious, since I've heard a lot of talk about OS 8 on '030s.
Yeah, that's
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Actually it should have composite out too, if memory serves. There are various
Apple II and Commodore monitors that will take this signal, or you can plug
it into your VCR's video in. But you already knew that. :-)
You've nailed my apple][ setup. :)
Good little
Apple II and Commodore monitors that will take this signal, or you can plug
it into your VCR's video in. But you already knew that. :-)
You've nailed my apple][ setup. :)
Good little monitors the Commodore 1084s
Excellent monitors. So are the 1702s. I keep lots on hand, not just for my
If your ISP has a usenet (news groups) server, there's
a Mac group dedicated to the Seattle area.
If not, you can use http://groups.google.com to read
and post to seattle.users.macintosh
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8group=seattle.users.macintosh
=
Work it harder make it
--- Bryan Kattwinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 10/15/02 7:19 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
Some people have been able to swap them into an
SE/30
so they could have a 32bit clean compact Mac able
to take full advantage of up to 128meg RAM.
Why is the IIsi ROM simm better than using Mode32?
ftp://ftp.logitech.com/pub/techsupport/hand_held_scanners/mac/
ScanMan 2.2 software. Final version. Not for PowerMacs
or 68k AV Macs.
=
Work it harder make it better do it faster makes us stronger.
More than ever hour after our work is never over. Daft Punk
At 20:14 -0700 on 15/10/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
ftp://ftp.logitech.com/pub/techsupport/hand_held_scanners/mac/
ScanMan 2.2 software. Final version. Not for PowerMacs
or 68k AV Macs.
Anyone care to speculate as to why *that* might be?
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Why must I make the window big enough to fit your format? :(
Very nice otherwise. :)
Mark Benson wrote:
Here's a little teaser of what the new FPM will look like.
http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/fpm_teaser.jpg
Any other comments are greatly appreciated to help make this site the
best I
--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a little teaser of what the new FPM will look
like. I like it -
I dunno about you :)
http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/fpm_teaser.jpg
I need to know if there are any problems with Tables
support in old browsers?
For Netscape you must
I want to thank both Ken (KADaggett) and Gregg Eshelman for their assistance
in helping me obtain the drivers for this.
I've got this doodad and because it's there I will have to bring my IIci
out of mothballs and try it. I remember when the scanman came out and wanted
one badly but didn't have
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...or use .shtml and you can then not have to worry
about updating the same
information 3 times.
Yep, there are ways to write your text boilerplate
section then grab it for fancy use as well as having
the same text used for text only browsing.
=
You know, since I have the drivers now, I think I might try it out on my
Starmax. Let you folks know what happens.
Jim
- Original Message -
From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Logitech Scanman
At 20:29 -0700 on 15/10/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
For Netscape you must make sure you always close your
table with the /table tag. If you don't Netscape
will either only display what's above the table or
it won't display anything at all. There are some other
things like that which Netscape
On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 04:29 Europe/London, Gregg Eshelman
wrote:
For Netscape you must make sure you always close your
table with the /table tag. If you don't Netscape
will either only display what's above the table or
it won't display anything at all. There are some other
things
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