Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

2005-06-08 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2005-06-08 3:31, Terry Mathews wrote: Meh, x86 processor alone != PC. I'm sure Apple will make their platform so that normal computers cannot run Mac OS X. Replacing the standard (and outdated, inadequate, and user-unfriendly) BIOS with OpenFirmware will go a long way towards that. There

Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

2005-06-08 Thread rednight
On 08/06/2005, at 1:04 AM, Joost van de Griek wrote: On 2005-06-08 3:31, Terry Mathews wrote: Meh, x86 processor alone != PC. I'm sure Apple will make their platform so that normal computers cannot run Mac OS X. Replacing the standard (and outdated, inadequate, and user-unfriendly) BIOS

Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

2005-06-08 Thread Todd Russell
Actually there are currently ia64 boards that are Open-Firmware, I don't have one but I would imagine the development x86 Macs that were released to developers are pretty mush so plain PC. They probably boot similar to FreeBSD, in that they unmap the PC BIOS and replace it with Forth

Re: Dayna ethernet

2005-06-08 Thread Michael Hackett
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:55:16 +1000 Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve wrote: I don't have the Dayna driver... How can I get it? Intel's site. LOL, no really. He's right: http://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/644/eng/dport772.hqx I believe that's the file you're looking for (it

Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

2005-06-08 Thread Robert Patterson
Now all Macs are Vintage Macs. Wow, that really sums it up, doesn't it? I guess we're all orphans now. Rob -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at

Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

2005-06-08 Thread Joost van de Griek
Nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NeXT was a niche player at best and their OS ran on a very limited range of PCs and peripherals that they did not produce, and SGI never ported IRIX to x86 (big mistake - x86 SGIs only run Win2k). This is a very different situation, and I am cautiously

Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

2005-06-08 Thread Steve
Thinking about this some more, doesn't the newest Xbox use PowerPC chips? I understand that the CPU in a game machine is secondary to the video driving circuitry, but still, that means that the next-generation Microsoft Xbox team is using G5's or something. -Original Message- From:

Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

2005-06-08 Thread Steve
Check this out. Remember when I mentioned my wish for Apple to use the AlphaAXP when DEC died? Matt Lafleur Apple's move to Intel designed chips caught me by surprise a much as anyone. I was certain that Apple would use Intel to build PowerPC

Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

2005-06-08 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- rednight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip I would imagine the actual production Macs will be OF ia64 systems. The boxes they are providing developers know I primarily to get the code working on x86, hence why Apple wants them back and not in the general market The development systems

Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

2005-06-08 Thread Ricardo L. A. Bánffy
No no.. The Xenon (the XBox processor) is a multicore chip. Each core is not nearly as smart as the G5 (it looks dumber than a 601), but it can run 6 threads. It is just another way to use chip real-estate - instead of building a supersmart CPU they build 6 dumb ones and hope running six threads

Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???

2005-06-08 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking about this some more, doesn't the newest Xbox use PowerPC chips? I understand that the CPU in a game machine is secondary to the video driving circuitry, but still, that means that the next-generation Microsoft Xbox team is using G5's or