Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

>At 20:59 -0600 on 06/02/03, Steve Conrad wrote: > >>-> I meant that I am not browsing the web on the WebTV Plus at this time >>nor am I watching a movie right now. I just don't turn them off unless I >>really have to. > >Well, it's your own business, but why the heck not? >-- >the pickle -> Becau

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Dustin Rinebold wrote: > I use a Quadra 700 to do this. I don't think about cost- it's just a > techy/geeky thing to do. And that's why I like it! I boot it to an > external hard drive - copy everything over to a 20Mb RAM disk, then > boot to the RAM disk and shut off the ha

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 20:59 -0600 on 06/02/03, Steve Conrad wrote: >-> I meant that I am not browsing the web on the WebTV Plus at this time >nor am I watching a movie right now. I just don't turn them off unless I >really have to. Well, it's your own business, but why the heck not? -- the pickle FAQ

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

>At 20:38 -0600 on 06/02/03, Steve Conrad wrote: > >>-> WebTV Plus (not conected to the Net/Web) >>-> VCR (no, I am not watching a movie right now nor do I have cable) > >Whatever for? >-- > >the pickle -> I meant that I am not browsing the web on the WebTV Plus at this time nor am I watching a mo

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 20:38 -0600 on 06/02/03, Steve Conrad wrote: >-> WebTV Plus (not conected to the Net/Web) >-> VCR (no, I am not watching a movie right now nor do I have cable) Whatever for? -- the pickle FAQ _

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

>>Pickle - if you want to make an environmental statement, it seems to me >>that you should go after people "wasting" on the order of kWatts - not >>25 Watts. > >Guilty as charged! At the moment I have turned on in my room: -> A IIci w/a Macintosh Color Display -> Bernoulli Dual w/two disks in it -

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 19:17 -0600 on 06/02/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >fact that you're on a vintage Mac list indicates to me that you consume your >share of electricity for pleasure reasons too. Perhaps :) But I also don't use anything but my TiBook most of the time if I can avoid it, and having a laptop helps

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

> Yeah, uh, that's a LOT. Well yes, it's a lot compared to a Linksys router. That's true. I could also choose to not have internet service at all, which would save the electricty used by my cable modem. Heck, I'll stop getting cable altogether, and get rid of my televisions. Even better - if I

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

> Yeah, uh, that's a LOT. Well yes, it's a lot compared to a Linksys router. That's true. I could also choose to not have internet service at all, which would save the electricty used by my cable modem. Heck, I'll stop getting cable altogether, and get rid of my televisions. Even better - if I

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 19:38 -0600 on 06/02/03, Lyle Syverson wrote: >Well... don't overlook the environmental impact of manufacturing the new >router and throwing the old computer into the landfill. It's a dilemma, for sure. Recycling the old computer is probably still better than keeping it up and running needles

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

> >>>I use a Quadra 700 to do this. I don't think about cost- it's just a > >>>techy/geeky thing to do. And that's why I like it! I boot it to an --- cut --- Then On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, the pickle wrote: > Even if a typical Mac draws 50% of the max at what amounts to idle, that's > still $5-10/mont

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 01:25 +0100 on 07/02/03, Marten van de Kraats wrote: >And so, what are you afraid of? After the removal of Saddam the oil Whoa there buddy. "Removal of Saddam?" At what cost? *I* don't wanna get drafted into this mess. I don't think we have any business over there in the first place. Duby

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

>At 00:45 +0100 on 07/02/03, Marten van de Kraats wrote: > >>Guilty as charged! At the moment I have turned on in my room: > >[a lot of stuff] > >Yeah, but your country isn't about to bomb the sh*t out of Iraq to >appease your >leader's dad, either. >-- And so, what are you afraid of? After the r

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 00:45 +0100 on 07/02/03, Marten van de Kraats wrote: >Guilty as charged! At the moment I have turned on in my room: [a lot of stuff] Yeah, but your country isn't about to bomb the shit out of Iraq to appease your leader's dad, either. -- the pickle FAQ _

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 17:37 -0600 on 06/02/03, Dustin Rinebold wrote: >My Q700 draws 31W with no hard drive. 1 nubus network card, and 68 megs >of RAM. Works out to about $3 worth of electricity per day where I Yeah, uh, that's a LOT. >Pickle - if you want to make an environmental statement, it seems to me >that y

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

>Pickle - if you want to make an environmental statement, it seems to me >that you should go after people "wasting" on the order of kWatts - not >25 Watts. Guilty as charged! At the moment I have turned on in my room: a SE/30 a cd burner an external hard disk a lamp a Nordmende Parsifal tube radio

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

My Q700 draws 31W with no hard drive. 1 nubus network card, and 68 megs of RAM. Works out to about $3 worth of electricity per day where I live. I'm sure I burn more than 10 times that per month playing with the various "vintage" Macs in my house. Or from the mp3 server I have continually runni

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 14:10 -0800 on 06/02/03, Clark Martin wrote: >Actual power draw of a Q700 measured with a watt meter - 49 W. >FYI my SMC Barricade wireless router draws 5W. I'll take an 80% reduction in power consumption any day. -- the pickle FAQ __

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 4:39 PM -0500 2/6/2003, the pickle wrote: >At 13:27 -0800 on 06/02/03, Clark Martin wrote: > > >Minor detail but a Q700 uses around 35KWh per month, not "hundreds" > >Did you get that by measuring actual power draw? 24*30*230W (the >rating on the >PSU, which I realise is a maximum) gives 165

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 13:27 -0800 on 06/02/03, Clark Martin wrote: >At 4:09 PM -0500 2/6/2003, the pickle wrote: >>At 13:20 -0600 on 06/02/03, Dustin Rinebold wrote: >> >>>I use a Quadra 700 to do this. I don't think about cost- it's just a >>>techy/geeky thing to do. And that's why I like it! I boot it to an >> >>W

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 4:09 PM -0500 2/6/2003, the pickle wrote: >At 13:20 -0600 on 06/02/03, Dustin Rinebold wrote: > >>I use a Quadra 700 to do this. I don't think about cost- it's just a >>techy/geeky thing to do. And that's why I like it! I boot it to an > >Well, you know, just as long as you're OK with wasting th

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

At 13:20 -0600 on 06/02/03, Dustin Rinebold wrote: >I use a Quadra 700 to do this. I don't think about cost- it's just a >techy/geeky thing to do. And that's why I like it! I boot it to an Well, you know, just as long as you're OK with wasting the extra few hundred kilowatt-hours per month of ene

Re: IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

I use a Quadra 700 to do this. I don't think about cost- it's just a techy/geeky thing to do. And that's why I like it! I boot it to an external hard drive - copy everything over to a 20Mb RAM disk, then boot to the RAM disk and shut off the hard drive. This makes it really quiet, and it only d

IIci Router (Was: [swap] WTB: Wired Router)

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Mike Ford wrote: > LEM-Swap is for buying & selling Mac stuff. It is not a discussion list. [Ahem...] > Easy as can be, take an early mac, the IIci is perfect, put in two cheap > nubus network cards and install a free NETbsd router. You learn a little > about Unix, put an o