Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-20 Thread Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון
Hi, it’s happends to me also. My iPhone works in hebrew and sims to me the language is dimd. I remember it was started from ios11 or may be ios10. נשלח מה-iPhone שלי > ‫ב-21 בספט׳ 2019, בשעה 8:26, ‏‏Richard Turner ‏ > כתב/ה:‬ > > for me, the language rotor item has always been dimmed and I ha

Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
for me, the language rotor item has always been dimmed and I have several languages loaded. Dimmed meaning you cannot take it out of the rotor. This has been the case for several iOS versions. I wonder if it is country specific? Very odd. Richard Always look out for #1, and be careful not to st

Re: PS4 and XBOX Controllers in IPhone

2019-09-20 Thread Yohandy Rodriguez
I'm actually planning on using it with the playstation's remote play app whenever they add controller support. it'll be so cool using my dualshock and phone to play Mortal Kombat 11 remotely. I'm sure xbox will also add it to their app soon. On 9/20/2019 10:10 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone wrote:

Re: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread Robin Frost
Hi, What is a Tape King? and funny this comes up as I’d just recently been discussing with a friend how amazed I am that no one ever produced a retractable metal tape measure with tactile markings sort of like the talking one but without the large housing necessary for its talking component more

RE: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I would only buy a new Apple device from Apple unless a place like Best Buy or such were to offer a deal, but typically the deals are more on the older products they want to get rid of and not the brand new ones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Vicki W. Sent: Friday, September 20, 2

RE: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Language is not dimmed for me, if it is you probably haven’t added any languages or this is an iOS 13.0 things, I am already on the iOS 13.1 beta. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 5:55 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS1

RE: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That did sound like a pretty good deal, but the listing has ended and in any case, I am in Canada and the seller said he only ships to the US. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CrazyEyez Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: accessible measu

RE: I have some questions about manipulating files on the iPhone and my PC

2019-09-20 Thread R Van Lant
Another resource may be Judy Dixon's book on writing with the iPhone available an National Braille Press, but if Mystic Access did a whole book on Voice Dream Writer specifically, I'd go for that. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Anna Dresner Sent: Wedne

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Pete Nalda
You’re right! 7.9. My bad. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Sep 20, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Dave wrote: > > I think it’s 7.9. > > From: Pete Nalda > Sent: Friday, September 2

Re: Shift key does not work in IOs13

2019-09-20 Thread Danny Leung
Hi, I need to clarify, the shift key does not work in WhatsApp app. It is working fine in the mail app. I am not sure it is IOS 13 or WhatsApp issue. Blessing, Rev. Danny From my Mobile > On 20 Sep 2019, at 4:22 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote: > At my end, the shift key works just fine o

Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
The Language has always been dimmed. I believe the Braille Table is new, and yes it is also dimmed or grayed out, whichever you prefer. I haven't tried to move them in the order for a long time. Richard Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. On Sep 20, 2019, at 3:42 PM, Ger

RE: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Carolyn Arnold
My husband carries a tote bag to the doctor, because he has files and stuff in there. Best regards, Carolyn -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 6:01 PM To: viphone@googlegrou

Re: IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-20 Thread Holly
On my rotor settings, the 'language' is always grayed out. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or mo

RE: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread ilovecountrymusic483
I have had my ipad mini for a few months now and find it is just the rite size and yes it is very portible and love the batter life. Matthew From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 2:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: repla

IOS13 are some rotor ems grayed out or?

2019-09-20 Thread Gerardo Corripio
‘M wanting to move around some items on the rotor of iOS13 like “Braille Table”, “Language” and others, but they seem to be grayed out, and don’t want To be reorganized! Is this normal I wonder for the new iOS? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel -- The following information is important

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
You could, just call it a "man bag." LOL. Richard Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. On Sep 20, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:  Richard; I don’t carry a purse! LOL!!! Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!! On Sep 20, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Richard Turner wrote:  anth

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Anthony Vece
Richard; I don’t carry a purse! LOL!!! Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!! > On Sep 20, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > >  anthony, > Portable is in the eye of the beholder. > the iPad 7 will not fit a purse, unless one has a very large purse. > The iPad 7 is a little larger than th

Re: iOS13 and reading EMails with the native Mail app changed?

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
That was worse in the early betas; it would dump you out of mail. So, while inconvenient, this is an improvement. What you are doing is the only way right now. Maybe in iOS 13.1 it will be back to normal. Richard Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. On Sep 20, 2019, at 1:0

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
anthony, Portable is in the eye of the beholder. the iPad 7 will not fit a purse, unless one has a very large purse. The iPad 7 is a little larger than the original iPad, while the mini is over two inches smaller diagonally. To each his or her own. Richard Always look out for #1, and be careful

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Dave
I think it’s 7.9. From: Pete Nalda Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:33 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: replacing my IPad Mini Yes, the iPad mini 5 is 7.5. Plenty big for me! It also offers Apple Pencil support. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Dave
The iPad mini 5th gen, is very portable. Dave. From: Anthony Vece Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 7:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: replacing my IPad Mini Richard is the iPad seven not portable?? Thanks in advance Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!! On Sep 20, 2019

Re: don't forget to prepare your phone before updating it can prevent bugs

2019-09-20 Thread Kathy Brandt
How about copying and pasting text? I do that between male messages sometimes, and wouldn’t like doing without this. > On Sep 20, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote: > > I restarted the phone after the iOS13 update had finished downloading, when > an error that it couldn’t install, dou

Re: Deactivating Vibration Voiceover feedback on iPHone 7 series?

2019-09-20 Thread Ed Worrell
Hey There, You have to go into the VoiceOVer settings menu. Accessibility, VoiceOver, audio and then sounds/haptics. In this menu you should see an option to turn off/on haptics. Ed W. > On Sep 20, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote: > > Several of my blind Spanish-speaking friends, a

Re: Shift key does not work in IOs13

2019-09-20 Thread Gerardo Corripio
At my end, the shift key works just fine on my bluetooth keyboard! It’s an Elle-Gate model; those cheap types, which I’ve had with me a bit over a year and a half. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 20 sep 2019, a la(s) 2:32 p. m., dlng321.mob...@gmail.com escribió: > >  > > Hi

Re: don't forget to prepare your phone before updating it can prevent bugs

2019-09-20 Thread Gerardo Corripio
I restarted the phone after the iOS13 update had finished downloading, when an error that it couldn’t install, double-tapping on “Remind me Later” which a Restart solved the issue, and when the update had been installed and set up.NO major bugs to speak of so far! yes minor ones like with the Ma

iOS13 and reading EMails with the native Mail app changed?

2019-09-20 Thread Gerardo Corripio
in iOS13, did how one read and interact with Mail within the native Mail app change? I’m reading along an EMail, using the regular unthread view; when it comes time to double-tap on the Delete button taking off almost half of the botom part of the screen, it doesn’t jump me to the next or previo

Deactivating Vibration Voiceover feedback on iPHone 7 series?

2019-09-20 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Several of my blind Spanish-speaking friends, are wondering (they updated their 7 to iOS13 of course), how does one deactivate Voiceover’s vibration feedback? I told them to go into Settings/Accessibility/Voiceover/Audio, but they only see sounds. Thanks for any info. Gera Enviado desde mi iPho

don't forget to prepare your phone before updating it can prevent bugs

2019-09-20 Thread Davy Cuppens
Hi folks There are bugs that some have and others don’t. When having issues with whatever update, you can always try the following things. Before updating, restart your phone, reset all network settings and so stop all bluetooth and wifi connections. Then update your phone. After updating, do

Re: Shift key does not work in IOs13

2019-09-20 Thread 'Dan' via VIPhone
Hello, It's working fine for me. I'm using the Apple Magic keyboard and it's working just fine. Later. Danny > On Sep 20, 2019, at 12:32 PM, dlng321.mob...@gmail.com wrote: > >  > > Hi all, > > Have any one experience the shift key no longer work when using an external > keyboard with

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Pete Nalda
Yes, the iPad mini 5 is 7.5. Plenty big for me! It also offers Apple Pencil support. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Sep 20, 2019, at 12:59 PM, Vicki W. wrote: > > Good

Shift key does not work in IOs13

2019-09-20 Thread dlng321.mobile
Hi all, Have any one experience the shift key no longer work when using an external keyboard with IOS 13? I happened more than 1 keyboards. Danny -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running o

Re: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread Albert Ruel
I have two of those talking tape measures in my shop, and neither one works anymore. Funny how they will only bounce on the concrete floor two or three times before failing altogether. I like that I might be able to have them repaired. Thx, Albert Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2019, at 9:25

Watch OS 6 - App Removal

2019-09-20 Thread Peter Logan
Does anyone know how to do this? I can only seem to get into an edit mode of the app .. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, pl

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Keith Bierman
Apple often has refurbished units with full support ... used items from elsewhere seldom have that ;> Keith Bierman khb...@gmail.com 303 997 2749 On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 12:34 PM Richard Turner wrote: > Either way is fine. > If you want Apple Care, make sure to select it at Amazon or Apple. > I

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Anthony Vece
Richard is the iPad seven not portable?? Thanks in advance Anthony Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!! > On Sep 20, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > >  > That is the size of the iPad Mini. The iPad Mini 2019 is a very nice unit. > I got my wife one for her birthday in June. > I have

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Anthony Vece
I would order from Amazon because returns are so much easier And that goes for anything or anyone particularly Verizon. Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!! > On Sep 20, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Vicki W. wrote: > >  > Thank you to both you and Richard. I've found it on both Amazon and Apple, > althoug

Re: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread Dan Rathburn
You can get it directly from cobolt.co.uk for $68.61 at the current exchange rate. Shipping is free last I checked. HTH, Dan The nice thing about science is that it's true whether you believe in it or not. From: Richard Turner Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 12:04 PM To: viphone@goog

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
Either way is fine. If you want Apple Care, make sure to select it at Amazon or Apple. It might be easier with Apple. HTH, Richard Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. On Sep 20, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Vicki W. wrote:  Thank you to both you and Richard. I've found it on bo

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Vicki W.
Thank you to both you and Richard. I've found it on both Amazon and Apple, although I didn't check the price on Apple. What do you think the advantages are of purchasing it from Apple over Amazon? - Original Message - From: Dave To: IPhone Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 11

RE: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
That is the size of the iPad Mini. The iPad Mini 2019 is a very nice unit. I got my wife one for her birthday in June. I have no idea if Apple will come out with something different next Spring. There is also the new iPad 7 that is 10.2 inches diagonal, which costs less than the iPad Mini 2019.

Re: replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Dave
Hi Vicki. I have the latest iPad Mini 5th generation, and it only comes in the one size. But it is an excellent device, and is plenty big enough for me. Dave. From: Vicki W. Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 6:59 PM To: IPhone Subject: replacing my IPad Mini Good Afternoon, Looks like I am

Re: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread Donald Raikes
Thanks all for the input. I did some wood working when I was in junior high school back in 1973-5, and at that time I had access to a 6ft ssteel tape measure with 1/8 inch marks for the first six inches and 1 inch marks up to 1 foot then marks every 6 inches after that, and a combination square wi

replacing my IPad Mini

2019-09-20 Thread Vicki W.
Good Afternoon, Looks like I am needing to replace my IPad Mini if I want to update the IOS. The latest IPad is showing a 7.9 inch screen, but I thought there was one just a little larger. Any recommendations? Thanks. Vicki -- The following information is important for all members of the V i

Re: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread CrazyEyez
I found one on ebay if you have an account. Here's the link if you are interested. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264469004125 Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Matthew Bullis > wrote: > > I believe the talking tape measure

Re: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread Matthew Bullis
I believe the talking tape measure is in the Maxi Aids catalog or the Independent Living Aids catalog. I ordered it from one of those about five years ago, but can't remember which one. Matthew On 9/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Doing a Google search did give me this: > Talking Tape Measure by

RE: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Doing a Google search did give me this: Talking Tape Measure by Cobalt – horizons for the Blind You can of course contact Cobalt directly in England, they’ll shi

Re: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread Dave
13.1, is released on the 24th, which should fix most of the bugs. Dave. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 5:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13 I agree, as with every new release there are some bugs, b

RE: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Sieghard, Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape? Thanks, Richard Richard 🖖 Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 20,

RE: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I agree, as with every new release there are some bugs, but the accessibility improvements of iOS 13 are about as major as they have been in a very long time. Things like Activities and more ways to customize I think are all worth it. And of course nobody can continue for all that long with olde

RE: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That is because the SE is basically a smaller 6S internally, it came out in the spring of 2016, about 6 month after the 6S/6S Plus came out in the fall of 2015. Main difference between a 6S and an SE is that the SE did not have 3D touch and it still uses a first generation Touch Id home button wh

RE: Is there a talking camera for taking pictures of cards etc.

2019-09-20 Thread Richard Turner
And, with Voice Dream Scanner, if you save as PDF, it will retain the photo as well as the text. Then, in voice Dream Reader, if you set the Visual setting to Original it shows the photo of the image as well as having the text readable. Truly an amazing app. Richard Richard 🖖 Live long and p

RE: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff with any degree of accuracy. There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is somewhat the same concept as a Click R

Re: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread Davy Cuppens
Justin many Belgian people lost their extended flemish voices. When just hovering over the screen, VO announces all the app under your finger but skips the first letter so: there are new apps like witter acebook nstagram and essages. A lot of focus issues are reported from the mail app. VO doe

Re: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread Shirley Baker
How would you remove the update? Would you go where it says software update and find it there to remove? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2019, at 3:36 AM, Dave wrote: > > If you have your automatic updates off, and say remind > me later, there used to be another option to say no. > > Then i

Re: Is there a talking camera for taking pictures of cards etc.

2019-09-20 Thread Donna
Which app are you trying to use to take photos of cards etc? Voice Dream scanner works great for taking photos of objects with text. Seeing AI is also good, but in my opinion, not as good as Voice Dream Scanner. I lay the phone camera in the center of the card. I then lift the camera straight up

PS4 and XBOX Controllers in IPhone

2019-09-20 Thread 'Ming' via VIPhone
hi! anyone like playing games and think about use ps4 and XBOX Controllers on your IPhone or IOS devices aftger updating IOS 13? because IOS 13 can support bluetooth Controllers ! and do you think it is more better and more games can be playable when using these Controllers ? Ming msn/windo

Re: Is there a talking camera for taking pictures of cards etc.

2019-09-20 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello James, It’s kind of a weird gesture to do when trying to take a picture but have you tried to do a three finger single tap in the middle of the screen? This will announce objects, placement in the frame, and if it’s blurry or not. I hope this helps, Ed W. > On Sep 19, 2019, at 3:55 PM,

Re: apps Previous and Next Gestures don't work right

2019-09-20 Thread Ed Worrell
Hello, I think visible apps would be when you’re running apps in split screen on the iPad. This allows you to jump between them. Again this is just a guess on my part. Ed W. > On Sep 19, 2019, at 5:03 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote: > > On iOS13.0, I assigned 2-finger left and 2-finger right re

Iphone 8.

2019-09-20 Thread Jenny Bomareto
Anyone have an iPhone eight that they want to get rid of that is in good to excellent working order, and good to excellent cosmetic order? Look forward to here from you. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns abou

Re: major facebook problem

2019-09-20 Thread Jed Barton
Hey there, Well i can get the code via email. However 1 of the options that it wants to use to varify is varify from another device or computer. The problem is there are no check boxes that you can select to identify what computer or phone you use. Now, keep in mind, facebook has wanted me to chang

Re: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread Gerardo Corripio
Updated my SE, and everything (including the native Mail app) working as it should! The phone even seems a bit snappier than with iOS11&12! Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel > El 20 sep 2019, a la(s) 5:56 a. m., Justin Harris > escribió: > >  >> >> Still not entirely sure why so man

Re: Huge voiceover bug and flaw in IOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread alia robinson
nobody needs chastising on this list for decisions they made with their iphone. someone has to report bugs , so someone has to experience them. why should anyone come here if they’re going to be laughed at and told ‘I told you so’ it’s shameful behavior! if you can’t or won’t help then fine, but

Re: Huge voiceover bug and flaw in IOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread CrazyEyez
Lol! With respect, he could easily fix his problem. Simply download the 12.4.1 IPSW file and downgrade. I told you so. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2019, at 4:45 AM, Dave wrote: > > with respect, you should have waited. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- From: Ketan Kothari > Sen

Re: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread Justin Harris
> Still not entirely sure why so many people are not wanting to update. Yes iOS > was pretty buggy in those first few betas, but is pretty stable now. No major > bugs come to mind. Final release seems just fine. I updated all my devices > yesterday and have not had any problems at all for what t

Re: major facebook problem

2019-09-20 Thread Donna
Is it possible that you changed phone numbers & forgot to update the change on facebook? It has been a while since I have changed my facebook password, I seem to recall that one could have the code sent to an e-mail address? Donna > > Hey guys, > > So facebook wanted me to reset my password.

Re: Huge voiceover bug and flaw in IOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread Dave
with respect, you should have waited. Dave. -Original Message- From: Ketan Kothari Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 5:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Huge voiceover bug and flaw in IOS 13 Dear Friends, I at the outset apologize for a slightly long post. I have an Iphone

Re: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread Dave
If you have your automatic updates off, and say remind me later, there used to be another option to say no. Then i would go and remove the downloaded update from my phone. This always worked for me. Dave. -Original Message- From: Karen Poulakos Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 2:53

Re: Those wanting to avoid iOS 13

2019-09-20 Thread Dave
Hi Mark, this is true. Also, if you find it has downloaded to your device, it used to be possible to delete the download from your phone. But not sure if this is still the case. This would give you your space back, and also stop it installing. Dave. -Original Message- From: M. Tay

RE: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread Robert Wright
Unfortunately, this address is no longer valid. **If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***  From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: accessible measuring app? Fascinating, hat

Re: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Fascinating, hate to think of the possible price. robH. - Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" To: Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:44 AM Subject: Re: accessible measuring app? The below came from the Vision Aware site of AFB. The Click Rule The Click Rule is a metal tubular d

Re: accessible measuring app?

2019-09-20 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
I endorse tape king, the only one of these I did any good with. But still went back to the old tried and trusted. RobH. - Original Message - From: "Agent086b" To: "viphone" Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:46 PM Subject: Re: accessible measuring app? Hi, I have Two talking tap