Offense? No. But general comments are, well, too general. That's why I
try to avoid them and be specific or, as somebody once said, calling
on my fine command of English, say nothing (LOL).
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 21:37:12 +0100, you wrote:
I can't, and I do not have Nda, so my comments were
Thanks, Jonathan, for clearing up a very muddied lake.
Now, as I said in a previous message, if there were any kind of teeth
in such an agreement, this whole thing would be a moot point and we
wouldn't even be talking about it because there would've been no
podcast--unless, of course, you decided
Totally agree. But, like any binding agreement or law, if it has no
teeth, like our own A.D.A., it will be ignored.
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:33:28 +0930, you wrote:
i think some listers need to consider that NDA is a legal document. And Apple
has absolute right to keep it as for developers only.
I can't believe there were thirty-seven messages written about this
topic, none of which would have been necessary if anybody had listened
to the program. Thinking that it was one I hadn't heard before, I
downloaded it and listened. I got about two minutes into it, and
realized I had indeed heard
, August 26, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: About Shawn's Podcast
I can't believe there were thirty-seven messages written about this
topic, none of which would have been necessary if anybody had listened
to the program. Thinking that it was one I hadn't heard before, I
downloaded it and listened. I got
I listened to the podcast, and I never heard it stated that this was a
public beta. The podcaster also never explained how he got the beta
himself. Although he acknowledged that there's a lot of information on
IOS 7 available out there on the web, he also admitted that there are
people out
number6...@gmail.com
To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: About Shawn's Podcast
I can't believe there were thirty-seven messages written about this
topic, none of which would have been necessary if anybody had listened
to the program. Thinking
To me I think Sean was breaking the Nda. Apple has never released betas
of iOs or Os X as public, and I can't see that changing. I actually am
for this and wished other companies would follow suit. This is why even
the first go round of Apple's new operating system is so polished.
Just my
Then where is the public beta as I haven't seen it. Not saying I'm
personally interested but I was believed to be in the notion that Apple
would never ever release public betas of their software, and never will
they in the future. Am I missing something here? Any comments welcome on
or off
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: About Shawn's Podcast
I don't know what Podcast you were listening to but he did not say it
was in public beta. He also told people that if they didn't want to
listen to something which was essentially illegal
Never heard it explained? Where the hell were you in the first four
minutes, out for a beer? He said it's all over YouTube, hundres of
thousands of people already have it, he was just going to cover the
accessibility differences and improvements. He also warned several
times that it *is* beta, and
, so I think I've said
enough.
Joseph
- Original Message -
From: Steve Matzura number6...@gmail.com
To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: About Shawn's Podcast
I can't believe there were thirty-seven messages written about this
topic, none
You think? Do you have NDA? Can you quote verbatim the paragraphs
binding him to secrecy which you say he broke? If not, then please do
us all a favor and get your facts straight, then come back and bash me
to death if you like. I await your reply.
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:12:34 +0100, you wrote:
Message -
From: Steve Matzura number6...@gmail.com
To: VIPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: About Shawn's Podcast
I can't believe there were thirty-seven messages written about this
topic, none of which would have been necessary if anybody had
I can't, and I do not have Nda, so my comments were generalized. Sorry
if you took offence.
On 26/08/2013 20:21, Steve Matzura wrote:
You think? Do you have NDA? Can you quote verbatim the paragraphs
binding him to secrecy which you say he broke? If not, then please do
us all a favor and get
Hi Steve, Apple has never released a public beta of iOS. To obtain a beta, you
need to be a registered developer. It is true that during this cycle, it has,
as has been reported by several tech publications, been possible to install the
beta without the UDID of your device being registered with
i think some listers need to consider that NDA is a legal document. And Apple
has absolute right to keep it as for developers only. Unfortunately, there are
people that do not respect such document and often take advantage of the fact
that they got access to betas before any of the initial
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