Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-14 Thread Ari Moisio
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Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-14 Thread David Chittenden
your statement that even sighted folks work more efficiently with mouse and keyboard than touch-screen is completely inaccurate. This is a field which is constantly and thoroughly being studied. Research papers are published extremely regularly on the topic. First, when touch-screen interfaces

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-14 Thread Rick Alfaro
My 85 year old mother inlaw is living proof of this. For years both my wife and I have tried to get her going on a desktop computer with no real success to speak of. We got her and iPad a couple of years ago, and she took to it amazingly fast. She now uses it to read and send email, browse the

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-14 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I think that might be more true for a sighted person than for a blind person. With a sighted person, you see it with your eye and then you touch it; until we learn the screen, we have to touch it before we can do anything. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-14 Thread Rick Alfaro
Yes of course. She is sighted. Guess I should have been more specific but didn't think it was necessary. Best Regards, Rick alfaro On 2/14/2014 1:24 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: I think that might be more true for a sighted person than for a blind person. With a sighted person, you see it with

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2014-02-13 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Folks: For your possible interest: -Original Message- From: Ein Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:20 PM To: mac-acc...@mac-access.net Subject: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi everyone, I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Phil Vlasak
jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 6:28 AM Subject: Fw: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi Folks: For your possible interest: -Original Message- From: Ein Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain
remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi Folks: For your possible interest: -Original Message- From: Ein Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:20 PM To: mac-acc...@mac-access.net Subject: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi everyone, I'd like to introduce a small

RE: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Alex Stone
Subject: Fw: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi Folks: For your possible interest: -Original Message- From: Ein Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:20 PM To: mac-acc...@mac-access.net Subject: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread RobH.
@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:28 AM Subject: Fw: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi Folks: For your possible interest: -Original Message- From: Ein Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:20 PM To: mac-acc...@mac-access.net Subject

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Lelia
remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi Folks: For your possible interest: -Original Message- From: Ein Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:20 PM To: mac-acc...@mac-access.net Subject: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi everyone, I'd like

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Rick Alfaro
Subject: Fw: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi Folks: For your possible interest: -Original Message- From: Ein Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:20 PM To: mac-acc...@mac-access.net Subject: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi

RE: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Neal Ewers
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users That is absolutely crazy! Hundred and $29? Lelia Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:00 AM, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Folks, I think it is a good policy to put the price of a new

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Alan Paganelli
Subject: Fw: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi Folks: For your possible interest: -Original Message- From: Ein Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:20 PM To: mac-acc...@mac-access.net Subject: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread goshawk on horseback
Subject: RE: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Thanks for this, I also don't understand how this remote would do the following. Quoted from the email below. These features enable RiVO users to use a greater number of apps every day compared to VoiceOver users without RiVO

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Donald L. Roberts
the hang of the touch screen? Simon - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: RE: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Thanks for this, I also don't understand how

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread RobH.
at those people who haven't really got the hang of the touch screen? Simon - Original Message - From: Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: RE: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Thanks

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
yes, this was my guess as soon as I saw the first few sentences. teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:59 AM, goshawk on horseback goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: just taking a complete guess here, but may be they are aiming this

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oops, my quoted text from the last message disappeared. what I was aiming at was that I guessed after reading the first few sentences that this product was made to be marketed to people uncomfortable with touchscreens. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Teresa

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Arnold Schmidt
! Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:17 AM Subject: Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users I agree, but I also caution depending too much on a price listed

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Dave Sheridan
jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote: Hi Folks: For your possible interest: -Original Message- From: Ein Lee Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:20 PM To: mac-acc...@mac-access.net Subject: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi everyone, I'd like

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Michael Malver
, they are so excited! Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:17 AM Subject: Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users I agree, but I also caution depending too

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread Ari Moisio
Hi On the other hand many gamers want precise and immediate interaction and there are plenty of game controllers for the idevices available. I doupt anyone has said that they just are not get used to the touchscreen:-) Unfortunately until Apple puts any effort to general keyboard

Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users

2014-02-13 Thread goshawk on horseback
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:13 AM Subject: Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for iOS VoiceOver users Hi On the other hand many gamers want precise and immediate interaction and there are plenty of game controllers for the idevices available. I doupt anyone has