Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-30 Thread Robert Hill
viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. > > I don't have Light Detector, but I do have SeeingAssistant Light, and that > one works for me. Have you tried that one? > > Cheryl > > > Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
one@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. I don't have Light Detector, but I do have SeeingAss

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2014-09-30 Thread Rose Combs
Lenartiene Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:55 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. I don't have Light Detector, but I do have SeeingAssistant Light, and that one works for me. Have you tried that one? Cheryl Be joyful always,

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2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. Yes, it is true, apple is very fun. But we don

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Robin
I agree, and we shouldn't "circle the wagons" when someone shares their frustrations and/or disappointments about said platform (i.e, iOS), and recommend they switch Mobile platforms in the process. We should let them voice their frustrations and/or disappointments to help determine whether or

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2014-09-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I actually think it's inappropriate to come to an iPhone list and bash Android devices just as I think it's inappropriate to go to an Android list and bash iPhones. What works for one person may not work for another. Instead of getting defensive when someone else mentions another product, I thi

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure what you mean by the references below to not being able to use Android phones or Windows computers off the shelf. A blind person can enable Talk Back on an Android phone without any sighted assistance. I've done this myself on a Nexis 7. Windows has also added a hot key to start Na

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2014-09-29 Thread Juan Hernandez
10:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. Yes, it is true, apple is very fun. But we don't have to congratulate apple every time when they put in the market what ever new, more when they have bugs in their IOs. ur mistake is that we are giving our m

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2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
Yes, it is true, apple is very fun. But we don't have to congratulate apple every time when they put in the market what ever new, more when they have bugs in their IOs. ur mistake is that we are giving our money, what ever they want, when they are not been responsible with the customers, when they

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Juan Hernandez
John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. Pablo Even with the bugs Apple has it is still easy to use and a lot of fun. For example I was able to take a picture of my son and it was good enough for him to

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Pablo Even with the bugs Apple has it is still easy to use and a lot of fun. For example I was able to take a picture of my son and it was good enough for him to add to his instagram account. Try doing that with the Windows phones. Yes there are bugs but IOS and voiceover are very much useable and

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2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
Oh lord. Now the economy is handle like you said? Buying things that are not working well, improve the quality of the product? Where is the value of the competition in this formula? Yes, apple as android, as many other brans has to work with the accessibility. It is mandatory now. It is mandatory b

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pinky
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Sieghard If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving your life quality. You will not improve the apple devices

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread David Chittenden
lto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:06 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. > > Pablo, > > Whether we give money to Apple by buying iPhones will make no difference, I &

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2014-09-29 Thread alia robinson
I still don't think it's usable off the shelf, but that's just me. Nothing comes close to the iphone for being able to buy and go, and the reason I am on an iphone list is because I firmly believe that still. If I wanted to bash idevices I would go to an android list and do so; I am here to make

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2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
it's still a superior and more importantly a more secure platform. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iss

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2014-09-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
es Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:11 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Sieghard If you continue defending the apple business, you will not be improving your life quality. You will not improve the apple devices, you will not improve the IOs8 quality either. Maybe

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Also Omoby doesn't work. But Tap Tap See does. Go figure! >Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is >something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on >

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2014-09-29 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
iphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:46 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. > > Light Detector works fine for me. Make sure you go to Settings, Privacy and > Camera t

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Rose Combs
AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Light Detector works fine for me. Make sure you go to Settings, Privacy and Camera to make sure Light Detector is allowed to use the Camera. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread alia robinson
The only way to improve products is to use them and report bugs when we find them, as stated before if every person using accessibility stopped buying it wouldn't make not a single bit of difference, and apple isn't making money off accessibility; they could just stop doing it, period. I can't g

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2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
14 1:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Correct, and I believe it was something like 9 people who actually reported their iPhone bent out of several millions which were sold. I bent my iPhone 5S a few months ago but it was my own fault and if you were

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Pablo, Whether we give money to Apple by buying iPhones will make no difference, I mean zero

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
om Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. Did you also read the Consumer Reports follow-up report where they purchased an iPhone 6+ and tested it against sevcral other phones of the same size? Well, the iPhone withstood 20 pounds more pressure before starting to bend compared with it

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Morales Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Nope, are another solution. Keep IOs 7.1.2, and do not upgrade to IOs8, like this, no bugs will be doing anything in your iDevice. If you don't have and iPhone, do not

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Christopher Chaltain
PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: issues I have with the new update. Hello folks. I usually don't post on here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am extremely disappointed. I just might let them know this. First,

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread David Chittenden
o reported their iPhones 6+, bended. > So sad. > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Kevin Wassmer > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 1:03 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: issue

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Pablo Morales
ssage- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of RobH. Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. Sadder when you spend all that extra money, and find some of the irritation

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Pablo Morales
, 2014 1:03 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: issues I have with the new update. Hello folks. I usually don't post on here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am extremely disappointed. I just might let

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
age - From: "Rose Combs" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:21 AM > Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. > > > Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is > something that with as many family members some in the turn of

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Brett
t;Rose Combs" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:21 AM > Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. > > > Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is > something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Charles Rivard
From: "Rose Combs" To: Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:21 AM Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on lights get all confused with

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2014-09-28 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
hone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>Of Kevin Wassmer >>Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:03 PM >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>Subject: issues I have with the new update. >> >>Hello folks. I usually don't post on >>here much. However, I am very displ

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2014-09-28 Thread Anna Byrne
can't get it to work. Money reader does work. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Wassmer Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: issues I have with the new update. Hello folks.

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: issues I have with the new update. Does anyone else have a problem with Light detector on IOS 8.02? It is something that with as many family members some in the turn off and on lights get all confused with my ceiling fans etc., I used regularly and right

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
, September 28, 2014 2:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: issues I have with the new update. I think it's time to stop with the "I might" and get to it. I have already called with one problem myself and will call with others when I encounter them. Think of this as your help in

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Vicky Collins
roups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Wassmer Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: issues I have with the new update. Hello folks. I usually don't post on here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is very Reputable, I

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Richard Turner
I have not been following this thread, but whomever wrote the original message has not been paying attention since a solution to the bluetooth keyboard problem has been posted several times before yesterday. Yes, the keys sticking in the phone keypad is an annoying problem. Yes, iOS 8 is perhaps

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Robin
It appears you are highly invested in Apple products/services, and I suggest you contact both Apple and/or Apple Accessibility to address your concerns and give them some "constructive criticism", but in my opinion, leaving to go to another Mobile PlatForm is not the answer. Although I do supp

RE: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Rose Combs
ginal Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Wassmer Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 10:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: issues I have with the new update. Hello folks. I usually don't post on here much. However, I am very

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread RobH.
; To: Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 6:03 AM Subject: issues I have with the new update. Hello folks. I usually don't post on here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am extremely disappointed. I just

Re: issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-28 Thread Gary Petraccaro
o: Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 1:03 AM Subject: issues I have with the new update. Hello folks. I usually don't post on here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am extremely disappointed. I just migh

issues I have with the new update.

2014-09-27 Thread Kevin Wassmer
Hello folks. I usually don't post on here much. However, I am very displeased with Apple. For a company that is very Reputable, I expect a lot more out of apple. I am extremely disappointed. I just might let them know this. First, when a person dials a number manually with voice-over, the numbers s