Re: [vmeet] Making remote hubs more formal, more complete, and more integrated

2017-01-30 Thread John Leslie
I see three new emails here on . I intend a reply to each; but Alia is going to get short-changed until perhaps tomorrow. :^( Alia Atlas wrote: > >... > I would like to add some nuance to the description of IETF Hubs and > distinguish between the activity of being an IETF Remote Hub for one o

Re: [vmeet] Making remote hubs more formal, more complete, and more integrated

2017-01-30 Thread Paul Kyzivat
I understand it is too late to do anything about Chicago, but I suggest that the IETF remove the US as a candidate for any future meetings. Wanting to do something, Paul On 1/29/17 11:28 PM, nalini.elk...@insidethestack.com wrote: For obvious reasons, there is some renewed/incr

Re: [vmeet] Making remote hubs more formal, more complete, and more integrated

2017-01-30 Thread John Leslie
Paul Kyzivat wrote: > On 1/29/17 8:21 PM, Alia Atlas wrote: >... >> 1) A physical location for the meeting... >> 2) Limited attendance and interest... >> 3) Split Community... >> 4) Inconvenience of time-zone... > > I concur with all of the above. I don't see how these are likely to be > overco

Re: [vmeet] Making remote hubs more formal, more complete, and more integrated

2017-01-30 Thread John Leslie
nalini.elk...@insidethestack.com wrote: > > I believe that we should have a short term and long term goal. > > Short term, since Chicago is literally upon us, I would say, let the > remote hub meet in any way that it can. Just to emphasize: Remote-hubs that can't offer 8 conference rooms sho

Re: [vmeet] Making remote hubs more formal, more complete, and more integrated

2017-01-30 Thread John Leslie
Paul Kyzivat wrote: > > I suggest that the IETF remove the US as a candidate for any future meetings. That isn't a topic for -- John Leslie ___ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. https://www

Re: [vmeet] Making remote hubs more formal, more complete, and more integrated

2017-01-30 Thread Alia Atlas
John, On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:15 AM, John Leslie wrote: >I see three new emails here on . I intend a reply to each; but > Alia is going to get short-changed until perhaps tomorrow. :^( > > Alia Atlas wrote: > > > >... > > I would like to add some nuance to the description of IETF Hubs an

Re: [vmeet] Making remote hubs more formal, more complete, and more integrated

2017-01-30 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 1/30/17 11:26 AM, John Leslie wrote: Paul Kyzivat wrote: On 1/29/17 8:21 PM, Alia Atlas wrote: ... 1) A physical location for the meeting... 2) Limited attendance and interest... 3) Split Community... 4) Inconvenience of time-zone... I concur with all of the above. I don't see how these a

[vmeet] Remote Hubs in Somalia, Sudan and Libya

2017-01-30 Thread nalini.elkins
Hello All, I wanted to reach out to the community in Africa, especially those who may be in the countries affected by the visa ban to the United States: Somalia, Sudan and Libya.   There are quite a few people in the IETF community who are concerned about your ability to participate in the IETF9

Re: [vmeet] Making remote hubs more formal, more complete, and more integrated

2017-01-30 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, January 30, 2017 11:55 -0500 Alia Atlas wrote: >... > Yes - I am pushing back against Dave Crocker's question about > what each Remote > Hub needs to have to fully participate. > > In reality, I think one or more conference rooms are good. I > don't quite think that a place > for