Re: [vmeet] draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs comments

2012-01-06 Thread John Leslie
Randy Bush wrote: > > i also think that much of the discussion i have read is all waay to > specific and detailed. Were we starting from scratch, I'd agree. But this is a commissioned report, and I think the level of detail is appropriate for a commissioned report, although there need

Re: [vmeet] draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs comments

2012-01-06 Thread Randy Bush
putting my money where my mouth is ... for personal and somewhat superstitious reasons, i do not go to meetings in the southeastern united states. so for atlanta, i would like o to be able to see and hear any of the wg/bof meetings and plenaries o when there are slides or movies, i want to be

Re: [vmeet] draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs comments

2012-01-06 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 1/6/2012 7:44 AM, Randy Bush wrote: i think a good exercise would be to write two sets of bullets that fill less than one page that list short term functions we need and could realistically expect in a year and then long term wishful ideas. and expect that the latter will change a lot as we

Re: [vmeet] draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs comments

2012-01-06 Thread Randy Bush
> Indeed I recall someone making a comment in the Amsterdam '93 plenary > using vat . the old mcast tools used to be two way, it was common to have a voice come out of the ceiling. it was when we moved to 'modern' tools, often commercial ones oriented to consumer one way c

Re: [vmeet] draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs comments

2012-01-06 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 1/6/2012 7:05 AM, Eliot Lear wrote: On 1/6/12 2:54 AM, Fred Baker wrote: following the meeting online ("remote attendees"). In the past decade, the IETF has tried to make it easier for remote attendees to "decades"? We started using the MBONE tools in 1992... Indeed I recall some

Re: [vmeet] draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs comments

2012-01-06 Thread Eliot Lear
On 1/6/12 2:54 AM, Fred Baker wrote: >>following the meeting online ("remote attendees"). In the past >>decade, the IETF has tried to make it easier for remote attendees to > "decades"? We started using the MBONE tools in 1992... Indeed I recall someone making a comment in the Amsterdam

Re: [vmeet] draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs comments

2012-01-06 Thread John Leslie
By the time I completed my first pass through the document, Fred Baker had written: > > A general comment throughout at least section 4 and perhaps the > entire document - could we use RFC 2119 language when we're talking > about requirements? A very good point! It appears we have som

[vmeet] draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs comments

2012-01-05 Thread Fred Baker
A general comment throughout at least section 4 and perhaps the entire document - could we use RFC 2119 language when we're talking about requirements? >following the meeting online ("remote attendees"). In the past >decade, the IETF has tried to make it easier for remote attendees to "