Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-06 Thread Dave Warren
> > Unfair ADVANTAGE? What advantage? If Microsoft is worried, they can go > > download the bloody source and find out EXACTLY what the competition is up > > to. > > I think part of the unfair advantage is the fact that microsoft can't > bankrupt them :) Yeah, well there is THAT. Have they man

RE: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-06 Thread Tariq Mahmood
Quite right, how Microsoft dare complain -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David W. Chapman Jr. Sent: 06 September 2002 18:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 09:47:58PM -0600,

Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-06 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 09:47:58PM -0600, Dave Warren wrote: > > On an equally ironic note, there is a story today in the business section > of > > the New York Times about how Microsoft is complaining that, in Europe, > Linux > > and other open source software has an "unfair advantage". > > Unfa

Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-05 Thread Ian Simcock
L PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:43 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next > On an equally ironic note, there is a story today in the business section of > the New York Times about how Microsoft is complaining that, in Europe, Linux > and other open source softw

Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-05 Thread Dave Warren
> On an equally ironic note, there is a story today in the business section of > the New York Times about how Microsoft is complaining that, in Europe, Linux > and other open source software has an "unfair advantage". Unfair ADVANTAGE? What advantage? If Microsoft is worried, they can go downlo

Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-05 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 12:11:37AM +, Per Andersson wrote: > > At 8:54 AM -0700 9/5/02, Seth Kurtzberg wrote: > > > > > > What's next - "By agreeing to this license you agree to not use any third > > > > party software." > > > > There's a simple alternative - QUIT USING MICRO$HAPHT PRODUCT

Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-05 Thread Per Andersson
> At 8:54 AM -0700 9/5/02, Seth Kurtzberg wrote: > > > > What's next - "By agreeing to this license you agree to not use any third > > > party software." > > There's a simple alternative - QUIT USING MICRO$HAPHT PRODUCTS. Well, the only Microsoft product I am using is Windows. But without win

Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-05 Thread Walt Pawley
At 8:54 AM -0700 9/5/02, Seth Kurtzberg wrote: > > What's next - "By agreeing to this license you agree to not use any third > > party software." There's a simple alternative - QUIT USING MICRO$HAPHT PRODUCTS. Been working for me. Starting to work real well for lots of big corporations even.

Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-05 Thread Seth Kurtzberg
On an equally ironic note, there is a story today in the business section of the New York Times about how Microsoft is complaining that, in Europe, Linux and other open source software has an "unfair advantage". I'm not making this up. On Thursday 05 September 2002 10:32, W. Curtiss Priest wro

Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-05 Thread W. Curtiss Priest
A quick note about Microsoft. Seth will enjoy this one as he programmed the CQL (SQL) engine I embedded in a DOS product that permitted people to "share information using folders." I actually received several patents, see, e.g.: http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US05167011__ It turned out th

Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-05 Thread Seth Kurtzberg
They are not going to be able to get away with "no third party software" while the anti-trust suit settlement is still pending. I think even Microsoft must realize this by now. There are many other problem cases. For example, I use the cygwin servers (ssh, sftp) etc. on Windows boxes; are th

Re: Microsoft EULA

2002-09-05 Thread Akira Hatakeyama
Gretings. On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 09:44:35AM -0400, Stephan Edelman wrote: > That was an article in InfoWorld > (http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/03/18/020318oplivingston.xml) > > These guys are something else. Does anybody confirmed EUAL really? At least japanese version of WinXP P

Re: Microsoft EULA - what's next

2002-09-05 Thread Paul Noah
Well if I understand this, then programs like pcAnywhere are also not allowed. Since telnet isn't mentioned as allowed I would assume that the Windows 2000/XP built in telnet server is now allowed either. What's next - "By agreeing to this license you agree to not use any third party software."

Re: Microsoft EULA

2002-09-05 Thread Stephan Edelman
That was an article in InfoWorld (http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/03/18/020318oplivingston.xml) These guys are something else. Stephan. - Original Message - From: "Daniel Wyllie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: September 5, 2002 8:57 AM Subject: Microsoft E

RE: Microsoft EULA

2002-09-05 Thread Lee Allen
We run our mainstay "Windows" app on a Linux server, using Wine. Users (multiple) access it using VNC, from any supported VNC platform. We do this for stability and performance. But it also means we are not hostage to Microsoft's licensing games and various other antics. Lee Allen Leadtec Syst