Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Fred Posner
You may want to check out the Canonical SIP Routing Platform by Evariste Systems. http://www.csrpswitch.com -- Fred > On Jun 20, 2015, at 2:39 AM, Greg Lipschitz > wrote: > > Hi All, > > We are in the process of going down the path of deploying our own Softswitch > infrastructure to trans

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Gavin Henry
You'll be very hard pushed to find any product that doesn't have open source software somewhere in it. It powers the world. ___ VoiceOps mailing list VoiceOps@voiceops.org https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread David Wessell
We utilize CSRP http://www.evaristesys.com/ and I believe it meets all of your listed requirements. We've been quite happy with it. Thanks David On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Greg Lipschitz wrote: > Hi All, > > We are in the process of going down the path of deploying our own > Softswitch in

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Mark Wiles
I'm a big Metaswitch fan myself. On Sat, Jun 20, 2015, 7:36 AM David Wessell wrote: > We utilize CSRP http://www.evaristesys.com/ and I believe it meets all of > your listed requirements. We've been quite happy with it. > > Thanks > David > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 2:39 AM, Greg Lipschitz < > g

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Alex Balashov
Indeed, it doesn't seem to me that open-source systems are the thing to be avoided, nor that it's necessarily possible to do so. Moreover, the value proposition and trade-offs of open-source systems are quite clear. It seems to me the largest long-term value is in integration paths and connecto

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Even Microsoft has started to embrace open source in a big way but I can understand how some open source projects may have left a bad taste in your mouth. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Gavin Henry Sent: ‎6/‎20/‎2015 7:30 AM To: Fre

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Last time I deployed Broadsoft on Solaris. We had mixed results. This was back in 2002 I understand the Broadsoft Platform has changed alot. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Greg Lipschitz Sent: ‎6/‎20/‎2015 2:40 AM To: voiceops

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I also need to select a softwitch shortly. I can understand why some may reply off list but if you would not mind posting a summary it would be much appreciated. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Greg Lipschitz Sent: ‎6/‎2

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Peter E
Well said Alex. Service providers require support for the *whole* product and that is where open source solutions may falter. I don't necessarily agree with the notion that the big-brands don't integrate. We do a ton of integration with Broadsoft, both with software that we've written and 3rd p

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Glen Gerhard
I'll reply to the list since it seems of general interest.  My company makes C4 Softswitches but I'll stick with general recommendations. Common commercial manufacturers include ourselves, GenBand, Sonus, Oracle, Switchray (aka Mera), Kamalio, Cataleya and

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Alex Balashov
Oh, yes, big-brand switches do have integration capabilities, but within a tightly controlled set of parameters. Moreover, these integration paths typically take the form of morbidly obese, bureaucratic SDKs, betraying a common fondness for heavyweight SOAP and Java.  It's not the same as just

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Alex Balashov
Also, I cannot agree with the stance than open source technologies are unsuitable for core softswitches. All open source engines out there today are just technology cores; a great deal of middleware, integration and application is required to turn them into service delivery platforms. ‎That mak

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Peter Beckman
Better not use SIP, it is an open standard. Better not use DNS and BIND, it's both an open standard and open source. Better not use nginx or Apache, they are both open source. Better not use MySQL or Postgres, they are both open source. Better not use SMTP or postfix or mailman, they use open

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Gavin Henry
+1 -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Managing Director. T +44 (0) 1224 279484 M +44 (0) 7930 323266 F +44 (0) 1224 824887 E ghe...@suretec.co.uk Open Source. Open Solutions(tm). http://www.suretecsystems.com/ Suretec Systems is a limited company registered in Scotland. Registered number: SC258005

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Alex Balashov
+10,000, but the complete failure among Bellhead/ex-ILEC/traditional telco types to comprehend this is why we're effectively shut out of that market. :-) -- Alex Balashov | Principal | Evariste Systems LLC 303 Perimeter Center North, Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30346 United States Tel: +1-800-250-5920

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Zak Rupas
I agree with Peter. The company's I worked for in the past that deployed open source never made it as they encountered serious issues and bugs and did not have a solid in house talent that could resolve the issues. There is only a hand full of large carriers left with open source cores and they

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Alex Balashov
‎The law of conservation of mass and energy applies to commercial solutions vendors, too; they also need to retain in-house talent and solve problems. As it happens, they often do a worse job of this (while chargi

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Peter E
I assume this was directed at me? I guess you missed the part where I said I am a fan of open source technologies. On Jun 20, 2015, at 15:39, Peter Beckman wrote: Better not use SIP, it is an open standard. Better not use DNS and BIND, it's both an open standard and open source. Better not

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Gavin Henry
On 20 Jun 2015 21:11, "Alex Balashov" wrote: > > The law of conservation of mass and energy applies to commercial solutions vendors, too; they also need to retain in-house talent and solve problems. As it happens, they often do a worse job of this (while charging more) because their staff do not b

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Alex Balashov
"The clever ones get support contracts for core open source software from the open source software project" Oh, indeed. But it just doesn't feel as satisfying as having a long dependency chain of medium-to-large companies to blame, escalating that blame through sclerotic TACs and offshore NOCs.

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Carlos Alvarez
I'm currently working on my third successful open source based company. We use Asterisk and haven't needed support in years. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 20, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Zak Rupas wrote: > > I agree with Peter. The company's I worked for in the past that deployed open > source never m

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread Alex Balashov
On 06/20/2015 04:46 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote: I'm currently working on my third successful open source based company. We use Asterisk and haven't needed support in years. Indeed, but - to play Devil's Advocate - you have to keep in mind that a lot of LECs and ITSPs: - Are primarily sales co

Re: [VoiceOps] Which Softswitch?

2015-06-20 Thread jungle Boogie
On 20 June 2015 at 12:17, Alex Balashov wrote: > Architecture is of the essence. A well-architected, clusterable Freeswitch > platform (or, say, Kamailio, as in our case) is much more reliable and > capable than a badly implemented commercial platform with crappy vendor > support. And quite i